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Is the predictive model wrong?

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  • J jon-nyc
    3 Apr 2020, 15:20

    https://13wham.com/news/local/watch-gov-cuomo-holds-daily-covid-19-briefing-from-albany-04-01-2020

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    89th
    wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 15:35 last edited by
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    I created a thread for this but deleted it. I didn't think it could be true.

    Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Friday that 2,935 New Yorkers died from the coronavirus over the last 24-hours, the highest single increase in deaths since the outbreak began a few weeks ago.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/03/new-york-gov-cuomo-says-state-saw-its-single-biggest-increase-in-coronavirus-deaths-yesterday.html

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      89th
      wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 15:40 last edited by
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      .........and they've updated the article. The change in bold.

      Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Friday that 2,935 New Yorkers have died from the coronavirus so far with 562 new deaths over the last 24 hours

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        Copper
        wrote on 3 Apr 2020, 15:50 last edited by
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        Impeach him!

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 10:21 last edited by
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          The more I look into this model the less I like it. It strikes me as more of a ‘technical analysis’ than a ‘fundamental analysis’ in that it’s basically a curve fitting exercise heavily relying on the Wuhan experience.

          It seems to be predicting way too early of a peak and is overall too optimistic about our social-distancing measures.

          I would love to see the details behind the McKinsey models.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • J jon-nyc
            4 Apr 2020, 10:21

            The more I look into this model the less I like it. It strikes me as more of a ‘technical analysis’ than a ‘fundamental analysis’ in that it’s basically a curve fitting exercise heavily relying on the Wuhan experience.

            It seems to be predicting way too early of a peak and is overall too optimistic about our social-distancing measures.

            I would love to see the details behind the McKinsey models.

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            George K
            wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 11:32 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc yes.

            And the simple fact that its accuracy, in historical perspective, is pretty poor.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • J jon-nyc
              4 Apr 2020, 10:21

              The more I look into this model the less I like it. It strikes me as more of a ‘technical analysis’ than a ‘fundamental analysis’ in that it’s basically a curve fitting exercise heavily relying on the Wuhan experience.

              It seems to be predicting way too early of a peak and is overall too optimistic about our social-distancing measures.

              I would love to see the details behind the McKinsey models.

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              LuFins Dad
              wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 12:28 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc Which model? The covid19.healthdata.org model? I’ve been calling that model crap for the opposite reason. It undervalues decisions made by the general public and overvalues decisions handed down by the government.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 12:52 last edited by
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                Yes that model. That’s not really the opposite of my view, I also think it overstates the effect of our lockdown.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • J jon-nyc
                  4 Apr 2020, 12:52

                  Yes that model. That’s not really the opposite of my view, I also think it overstates the effect of our lockdown.

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                  LuFins Dad
                  wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 12:59 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc do you have a link to the McKinsey models?

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 13:47 last edited by jon-nyc 4 Apr 2020, 13:47
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                    They’re not public to my knowledge.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 20:31 last edited by
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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 20:44 last edited by LuFins Dad 4 Apr 2020, 20:45
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                        I’d like to see the ventilator numbers. And Florida is way too early to take anything from a 1 day aberration

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                          4 Apr 2020, 20:44

                          I’d like to see the ventilator numbers. And Florida is way too early to take anything from a 1 day aberration

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                          George K
                          wrote on 4 Apr 2020, 20:55 last edited by
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                          @LuFins-Dad said in Is the predictive model wrong?:

                          Florida is way too early to take anything from a 1 day aberration

                          Absolutely. We've seen 1 day dips before.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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