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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

    NYC - 87,028 - 6.4%
    NJ - 51,027
    MI - 21.504
    Nassau - 20,140
    CA - 19,131
    PA - 18,300 - 10%
    LA - 18,283
    Suffolk - 17,413
    Westchester - 17,004 - 7%
    MA - 16,790
    FL - 16,364
    IL - 15,078

    Not updated in 3 days, but I'm computing daily averages.

    NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
    NJ - 61,850
    MI - 24,028
    Nassau - 23, 553
    PA - 22,938
    MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
    CA 22,439
    Suffolk - 20,934
    IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
    LA - 20,595
    FL - 19,347
    Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

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    #41

    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

    NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
    NJ - 61,850
    MI - 24,028
    Nassau - 23, 553
    PA - 22,938
    MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
    CA 22,439
    Suffolk - 20,934
    IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
    LA - 20,595
    FL - 19,347
    Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

    NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
    NJ -64,584
    MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
    Nassau - 24,358
    PA - 24,292
    MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
    CA - 23,585
    IL - 22,024
    Suffolk - 21,643
    LA - 21,016
    FL - 20,601
    Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      #42

      Louisiana has calmed way the hell down,

      The Brad

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        #43

        It looks like we're (MA) spiking now.

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          #44

          Which seems odd.

          The Brad

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            #45

            I've really only paid close attention to NY numbers.

            But in my peripheral vision noting these other states, sometimes I see the numbers jump around in fits and starts. Could be uneven testing, could be the frequency with which JH updates their data. Or something else.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

              NYC - 103,208 - 5.8%
              NJ - 61,850
              MI - 24,028
              Nassau - 23, 553
              PA - 22,938
              MA - 22,860 - 10.8% daily ave growth
              CA 22,439
              Suffolk - 20,934
              IL - 20,848 - 11.4% daily average growth
              LA - 20,595
              FL - 19,347
              Westchester - 19,313 - 4.3%

              NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
              NJ -64,584
              MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
              Nassau - 24,358
              PA - 24,292
              MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
              CA - 23,585
              IL - 22,024
              Suffolk - 21,643
              LA - 21,016
              FL - 20,601
              Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #46

              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

              NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
              NJ -64,584
              MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
              Nassau - 24,358
              PA - 24,292
              MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
              CA - 23,585
              IL - 22,024
              Suffolk - 21,643
              LA - 21,016
              FL - 20,601
              Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

              NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
              NJ - 71,030
              MA - 29,852
              MI - 28,059
              PA - 26,753
              Nassau - 26,715
              CA - 26,666
              Suffolk - 23,278
              IL - 23,248
              FL - 22,511
              LA - 21,951
              Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
              Cook - 16,323
              Texas 15,687

              Cook County would be in 10th place if it were a state (consolidating all NY).

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                #47

                Seriously, what happened to slow down Florida and Louisiana?

                The Brad

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                  #48

                  Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

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                    #49

                    @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                    Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down

                    😀

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

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                      @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                      Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                      Read about my experience at WallyWorld.

                      Social distancing? I say "hah!" to your face...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        #51

                        I read it, and I get it. But ‘social distancing’ isn’t a binary metric set either to 1 or 0.

                        Schools closed? Check. Universities? Check. Concerts canceled? Check. Sporting events canceled? Check. Etc. etc.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          #52

                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                          Same thing that happened everywhere else. the virus turned 40 days old, got bored, and slowed down Social distancing has its intended effect.

                          But Florida was much later in instituting social distancing measures, both privately and by government mandate. So was South Carolina, Alabama, Mississippi, Oklahoma, and South Dakota. All were roundly criticized for not taking action earlier, yet all have been showing significant declines in viral growth well before they should. In fact, except for South Dakota, they are all at the same ~5% rate of increase as those states that locked down hard and early. We shouldn’t see them at these numbers for another 2 weeks, but here they are.

                          The Brad

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                            I don't know, we'd have to look in detail at each state to see when they formally closed things and when things started effectively closing from the bottom up.

                            I think besides the famous outliers like GA, if you look back there wasn't a huge difference in when states closed a lot of things. The vast majority of states closed schools the week of March 16-20, for example, including all the ones you mention.

                            But it would require some real analysis to look into it. And real data.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

                            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                              NYC - 106,763 - 3.5%
                              NJ -64,584
                              MA - 26,793 - 17% growth
                              Nassau - 24,358
                              PA - 24,292
                              MI - 24,244 - seems like it's not fully updated. 16 more cases than yesterday?
                              CA - 23,585
                              IL - 22,024
                              Suffolk - 21,643
                              LA - 21,016
                              FL - 20,601
                              Westchester - 19,786 up 2.5%

                              NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
                              NJ - 71,030
                              MA - 29,852
                              MI - 28,059
                              PA - 26,753
                              Nassau - 26,715
                              CA - 26,666
                              Suffolk - 23,278
                              IL - 23,248
                              FL - 22,511
                              LA - 21,951
                              Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
                              Cook - 16,323
                              Texas 15,687

                              Cook County would be in 10th place if it were a state (consolidating all NY).

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #54

                              @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                              NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
                              NJ - 71,030
                              MA - 29,852
                              MI - 28,059
                              PA - 26,753
                              Nassau - 26,715
                              CA - 26,666
                              Suffolk - 23,278
                              IL - 23,248
                              FL - 22,511
                              LA - 21,951
                              Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
                              Cook - 16,323
                              Texas 15,687

                              NYC - 123,146 up 4%
                              NJ - 75,312
                              MA - 32,181
                              PA - 28,258
                              Nassau - 27,772
                              CA - 27,618
                              IL - 25,734 - up 10.7%
                              Suffolk - 24,812
                              FL - 22,897
                              MI - 22,651 - wait this is bad data? 5k less than yesterday. Not sure what's up.
                              LA - 22,532
                              Westchester - 21,828 - up 4.2%
                              Cook - 18,087 - up 10.8%
                              TX - 16,553

                              So IL and Cook county are the only entities up more than 10%

                              (for those who don't know, Cook County is where Chicago is)

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                I don’t like this. Just eyeballing this it seems N.Y. is still pretty testing constrained. Lite new case days are invariably lite testing days.

                                Yesterday was our record test day and record new cases.

                                The curve is bending, but (again eyeballing) it looks like with consistent testing we’d see slow growth in new cases.

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                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                  They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                    They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

                                    JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
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                                    #57

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in NYC is ground zero:

                                    My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                    They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

                                    Here's hoping he doesn't have it.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                      My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                      They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

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                                      #58

                                      @Aqua-Letifer said in NYC is ground zero:

                                      My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                      They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

                                      How serious are his current symptoms? Must be enough to make him seek medical help. Best wishes to him, and let's hope he's not positive.

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                                      • brendaB brenda

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in NYC is ground zero:

                                        My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                        They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

                                        How serious are his current symptoms? Must be enough to make him seek medical help. Best wishes to him, and let's hope he's not positive.

                                        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                                        @brenda said in NYC is ground zero:

                                        @Aqua-Letifer said in NYC is ground zero:

                                        My BIL is being held in a hospital in NY right now. One doc is pretty convinced he has it, another isn't.

                                        They're keeping him there, but he can't get a test.

                                        How serious are his current symptoms? Must be enough to make him seek medical help. Best wishes to him, and let's hope he's not positive.

                                        His symptoms aren't too bad; kinda feverish, that's about it. My biggest worry is his wife, who has health issues, and his 1-year-old at home. I just don't know if they understand the severity of this, and what can happen if they get infected. They're kind of acting like business as usual, which is troubling.

                                        Anyway, no updates yet; we'll see what happens.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                          NYC - 118,302 - up 5.2% daily
                                          NJ - 71,030
                                          MA - 29,852
                                          MI - 28,059
                                          PA - 26,753
                                          Nassau - 26,715
                                          CA - 26,666
                                          Suffolk - 23,278
                                          IL - 23,248
                                          FL - 22,511
                                          LA - 21,951
                                          Westchester - 20,947 up 3%
                                          Cook - 16,323
                                          Texas 15,687

                                          NYC - 123,146 up 4%
                                          NJ - 75,312
                                          MA - 32,181
                                          PA - 28,258
                                          Nassau - 27,772
                                          CA - 27,618
                                          IL - 25,734 - up 10.7%
                                          Suffolk - 24,812
                                          FL - 22,897
                                          MI - 22,651 - wait this is bad data? 5k less than yesterday. Not sure what's up.
                                          LA - 22,532
                                          Westchester - 21,828 - up 4.2%
                                          Cook - 18,087 - up 10.8%
                                          TX - 16,553

                                          So IL and Cook county are the only entities up more than 10%

                                          (for those who don't know, Cook County is where Chicago is)

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                                          #60

                                          @jon-nyc said in NYC is ground zero:

                                          NYC - 123,146 up 4%
                                          NJ - 75,312
                                          MA - 32,181
                                          PA - 28,258
                                          Nassau - 27,772
                                          CA - 27,618
                                          IL - 25,734 - up 10.7%
                                          Suffolk - 24,812
                                          FL - 22,897
                                          MI - 22,651 - wait this is bad data? 5k less than yesterday. Not sure what's up.
                                          LA - 22,532
                                          Westchester - 21,828 - up 4.2%
                                          Cook - 18,087 - up 10.8%
                                          TX - 16,553

                                          NYC - 123,146 - dafuq that's the same # as yesterday
                                          NJ - 78,467
                                          MA - 34,402
                                          MI - 30,023 - bad data yesterday.
                                          PA - 29,888
                                          CA - 28,888
                                          Nassau - 27,772 same # as yesterday
                                          IL - 27,578
                                          Suffolk - 24,812 same # as yesterday
                                          FL - 24,759
                                          LA - 23,118
                                          Westchester - same # as yesterday
                                          Cook - 19,391
                                          TX - 17,803

                                          Weird, NYS not updated.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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