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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    This is being reported as the 10 point plan forming the basis of the ceasefire. Looks like a big L for the US.

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    @jon-nyc said:

    This is being reported as the 10 point plan forming the basis of the ceasefire. Looks like a big L for the US.

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    I think Trump’s friend Putin and his Foreign Minister, Lavrov wrote those points for the Iranians.

    Elbows up!

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    • MikM Away
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      Well, it may be better than targeting infrastructure that serves the population.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        #1119

        120-140 ships a day traverse the strait per day in peacetime. If Iran gets to charge each of them $2MM, that’s a billion dollars every four days.

        Makes Obama’s palates of cash look like chump change.

        Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          120-140 ships a day traverse the strait per day in peacetime. If Iran gets to charge each of them $2MM, that’s a billion dollars every four days.

          Makes Obama’s palates of cash look like chump change.

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          #1120

          @jon-nyc said:

          120-140 ships a day traverse the strait per day in peacetime. If Iran gets to charge each of them $2MM, that’s a billion dollars every four days.

          Makes Obama’s palates of cash look like chump change.

          Both Russia and Iran are making more money from the sale of oil thanks to the great leader’s efforts.

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            I suppose there’s still the possibility that the deal improves but it’s hard to imagine Iran making major concessions post ceasefire that it wasn’t willing to make with bombs raining down.

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            • MikM Away
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              An interesting review of a book on imperial overreach.

              https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-lamps-are-going-out/?utm_content=375012188&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-164771506031

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • MikM Mik

                An interesting review of a book on imperial overreach.

                https://claremontreviewofbooks.com/the-lamps-are-going-out/?utm_content=375012188&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&hss_channel=fbp-164771506031

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                #1123

                @Mik

                Westad’s book on the Cold War is one of the best I have ever read - and I have read at least a dozen or more on the subject over the years.

                This latest one on imperial overreach is now added to my running list of must reads.

                Elbows up!

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                • MikM Away
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                  It's fascinating to see how events in history are linked and caused by prior events, and to examine the similarities.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                    #1125

                    I’m trying to wrap my head around this $2M per ship thing.

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                    • B blondie

                      I’m trying to wrap my head around this $2M per ship thing.

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                      @blondie said:

                      I’m trying to wrap my head around this $2M per ship thing.

                      You’re not alone. It is an international waterway open for all commercial traffic. No one state along its shoreline can claim control or exact a toll. Iran’s present claim is groundless and contrary to maritime law. It alone could bring this ceasefire to an abrupt and violent end at the blink of an eye.

                      Elbows up!

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                        What an odd situation. Hard to imagine Iran will just stop fighting. They had another country bomb the crap out of them and kill many of their leaders. But maybe they’ll just be fine with making extra money off of maritime traffic.

                        Would be the first time Trump has ever lost. Aside from every business and political venture he’s been apart of.

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                        • MikM Away
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                          Wasn't that Iran's proposal? Can't imagine that will stand. They don't own international waters.

                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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