FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one
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@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:25 last edited by@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:37 last edited by
Mine were still in Canada.
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 16:47 last edited by@Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
Fun story actually. He was the company surgeon. At 17.
Why? Before the war he was apprenticed to a butcher. He could cut limbs off a mammal better than anyone else in the company.
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@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 17:52 last edited by@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
Damnyankee.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 18:10 last edited by
Not sure why this is even an issue? Names change all the time.
For example, why is it a good thing to name a military base after Gen. Bragg?? LOL
Braxton Bragg Was Considered One Of The Worst Generals In The Civil War
Why was it named Fort Bragg?
the local chamber of commerce named Fort Bragg after General Braxton Bragg because he was the only general from North Carolina during the Civil War.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 18:37 last edited by
Every participating state got a trophy.
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wrote on 14 Jan 2025, 20:21 last edited by
And we all share Juneteenth.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 01:22 last edited by
You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 01:28 last edited by
Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 02:00 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.
Yeah, the economic base was already laid. The South lost the ultimate war before they ever fired a shot. But the short term tactical win would have had a dramatic effect on federal vs state power.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 02:39 last edited by
Atlanta would be the capital
Trump Tower would be in Savannah
Adolph Hitler would have been compared to Abe Lincoln
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Atlanta would be the capital
Trump Tower would be in Savannah
Adolph Hitler would have been compared to Abe Lincoln
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You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.
wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:06 last edited by@LuFins-Dad said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.
We'd be a lot more like the Federal-State relationship of 1840, than what we are today. The Feds would be what, maybe 25% the size of the current government?
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:34 last edited by Doctor Phibes
And if Napoleon had won the Battle of Hastings (which he clearly would have done if he'd actually shown up) we'd all be speaking Dutch.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:37 last edited by
Odd how people seem to think the south could have won and yet we’d somehow have become one nation in time to turn the tide in the world wars. I think it’s at least as likely that had the south won we’d be speaking German.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:47 last edited by
For some reason, I'm reminded of Jeremy Corbyn's claims that he won the argument.
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Odd how people seem to think the south could have won and yet we’d somehow have become one nation in time to turn the tide in the world wars. I think it’s at least as likely that had the south won we’d be speaking German.
wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 13:49 last edited by@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
Odd how people seem to think the south could have won and yet we’d somehow have become one nation in time to turn the tide in the world wars. I think it’s at least as likely that had the south won we’d be speaking German.
Good point, I hadn't thought of that. If the south had won, I bed the north would've remained united as we are today, just smaller... and the south would've just been a united set of highly individual states that likely would've eventually led to more fighting. I'd imagine the north would've taken over the westward expansion of the country, too.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 14:34 last edited by
The westward expansion probably would have been negotiated north and south of some parallel. My guess anyway.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 15:23 last edited by
If the Japanese had hit our oil reserves at Pearl Harbor, we would all be speaking Japanese.
Or the Japanese would all be speaking Russian.
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wrote on 15 Jan 2025, 18:04 last edited by
@Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
And if Napoleon had won the Battle of Hastings (which he clearly would have done if he'd actually shown up) we'd all be speaking Dutch.
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