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FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

    @jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

    No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.

    Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.

    My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.

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    @jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

    @89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

    @jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

    No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.

    Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.

    My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.

    Damnyankee.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Not sure why this is even an issue? Names change all the time.

      For example, why is it a good thing to name a military base after Gen. Bragg?? LOL

      Braxton Bragg Was Considered One Of The Worst Generals In The Civil War

      https://www.grunge.com/493033/why-braxton-bragg-was-considered-one-of-the-worst-generals-in-the-civil-war/

      Why was it named Fort Bragg?

      the local chamber of commerce named Fort Bragg after General Braxton Bragg because he was the only general from North Carolina during the Civil War.🙄

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        Every participating state got a trophy.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          And we all share Juneteenth.

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            You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.

            The Brad

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              Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.

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                @jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.

                Yeah, the economic base was already laid. The South lost the ultimate war before they ever fired a shot. But the short term tactical win would have had a dramatic effect on federal vs state power.

                The Brad

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                  Atlanta would be the capital

                  Trump Tower would be in Savannah

                  Adolph Hitler would have been compared to Abe Lincoln

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                    Atlanta would be the capital

                    Trump Tower would be in Savannah

                    Adolph Hitler would have been compared to Abe Lincoln

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                    @Copper

                    Adolph Hitler would have been compared to Abe Lincoln

                    Further evidence that Cu > Pb.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                      You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.

                      We'd be a lot more like the Federal-State relationship of 1840, than what we are today. The Feds would be what, maybe 25% the size of the current government?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        And if Napoleon had won the Battle of Hastings (which he clearly would have done if he'd actually shown up) we'd all be speaking Dutch.

                        I was only joking

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                          Odd how people seem to think the south could have won and yet we’d somehow have become one nation in time to turn the tide in the world wars. I think it’s at least as likely that had the south won we’d be speaking German.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            For some reason, I'm reminded of Jeremy Corbyn's claims that he won the argument.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Odd how people seem to think the south could have won and yet we’d somehow have become one nation in time to turn the tide in the world wars. I think it’s at least as likely that had the south won we’d be speaking German.

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                              @jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                              Odd how people seem to think the south could have won and yet we’d somehow have become one nation in time to turn the tide in the world wars. I think it’s at least as likely that had the south won we’d be speaking German.

                              Good point, I hadn't thought of that. If the south had won, I bed the north would've remained united as we are today, just smaller... and the south would've just been a united set of highly individual states that likely would've eventually led to more fighting. I'd imagine the north would've taken over the westward expansion of the country, too.

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                                The westward expansion probably would have been negotiated north and south of some parallel. My guess anyway.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  If the Japanese had hit our oil reserves at Pearl Harbor, we would all be speaking Japanese.

                                  Or the Japanese would all be speaking Russian.

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                                    @Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                                    And if Napoleon had won the Battle of Hastings (which he clearly would have done if he'd actually shown up) we'd all be speaking Dutch.

                                    alt text

                                    Inspired by SNL, a panel discussion called "What If?" takes viewers' questions about ridiculous topics, including this week's question: what if Napoleon had access to a B-52 Bomber plane?,

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                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                                      And if Napoleon had won the Battle of Hastings (which he clearly would have done if he'd actually shown up) we'd all be speaking Dutch.

                                      alt text

                                      Inspired by SNL, a panel discussion called "What If?" takes viewers' questions about ridiculous topics, including this week's question: what if Napoleon had access to a B-52 Bomber plane?,

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                                      @taiwan_girl said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                                      @Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                                      And if Napoleon had won the Battle of Hastings (which he clearly would have done if he'd actually shown up) we'd all be speaking Dutch.

                                      alt text

                                      Inspired by SNL, a panel discussion called "What If?" takes viewers' questions about ridiculous topics, including this week's question: what if Napoleon had access to a B-52 Bomber plane?,

                                      Luke got me a ridiculously fun book called “What If” where a physicist with a sense of humor answers some bizarrely out there rhetorical questions… I’ll post a couple.

                                      The Brad

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                                        It’s the xkcd guy. They’re great.

                                        My favorite is the one where he compares the energy your body would take (its its last picosecond of existence) if (a) the sun went supernova vs (b) a hydrogen bomb detonated on the surface of your eye.

                                        The sun going supernova wins.

                                        Which is fucking amazing.

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                          It’s the xkcd guy. They’re great.

                                          My favorite is the one where he compares the energy your body would take (its its last picosecond of existence) if (a) the sun went supernova vs (b) a hydrogen bomb detonated on the surface of your eye.

                                          The sun going supernova wins.

                                          Which is fucking amazing.

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                                          @jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:

                                          It’s the xkcd guy. They’re great.

                                          My favorite is the one where he compares the energy your body would take (its its last picosecond of existence) if (a) the sun went supernova vs (b) a hydrogen bomb detonated on the surface of your eye.

                                          The sun going supernova wins.

                                          Which is fucking amazing.

                                          The guy is actually an alumni from Luke’s college - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Munroe

                                          The Brad

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