FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one
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Bring back Fort Hood! Fort Lee! Etc.!
Seriously, Eisenhower had a picture of Mars Lee in the Oval Office.
Y'all get over it.
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They were losers, but so were we. Just because the outcome set us on a course for abolition doesn't mean every other outcome was excellent and grand and ideal for everybody forever onwards.
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No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@Copper said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
MacArthur let Hirohito live.
We let them live too.
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
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@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
Who's we?
It's always 'we' when our ancestors won, and 'they' when they did sketchy shit. So, I am obliged to thank the great grandparents of people who helped my grandparents beat the Germans in 1944, but I have no right to expect an apology for the fact that their ancestors stole, forcibly buggered and then cooked my great-great-great-great uncle's favourite prize-winning pig during the War of Independence.
Hypothetically, of course.
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@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
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@Doctor-Phibes said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA.
Was he a fan of the porcine perchance?
Fun story actually. He was the company surgeon. At 17.
Why? Before the war he was apprenticed to a butcher. He could cut limbs off a mammal better than anyone else in the company.
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@89th said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
No, there was a war. They lost. We won. Winners get a trophy.
Who's we? Oh yeah you grew up in Ohio, so you get to bragg. If I had been born back then I would've likely been fighting for Virginia, too.
My family in the US was entirely in Massachusetts at the time. I had no direct ancestor in that war (though brothers/uncles/nephews of the contemporary generation sure) due only to birth years of the generations. I did have a direct ancestor in the revolutionary war in MA. We arrived in 1638, 18 years after the Mayflower.
Damnyankee.
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Not sure why this is even an issue? Names change all the time.
For example, why is it a good thing to name a military base after Gen. Bragg?? LOL
Braxton Bragg Was Considered One Of The Worst Generals In The Civil War
Why was it named Fort Bragg?
the local chamber of commerce named Fort Bragg after General Braxton Bragg because he was the only general from North Carolina during the Civil War.
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Every participating state got a trophy.
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You know, if the South had actually pushed harder in the opening months, they would have won… I think. We would still be in a pretty similar place as we are today, but with a far different outlook.
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Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.
When you shake someone's deep sense of self-worth, leaving a scar in their ego, they will persistently try to diminish you through petty arguments & obsessive captious criticism of your actions, just to soothe the wound.
- Nassim Nicholas Taleb
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@jon-nyc said in FFS Pete they’re losers. Every last one:
Feudalism against capitalism. The end was predetermined short of British entry.
Yeah, the economic base was already laid. The South lost the ultimate war before they ever fired a shot. But the short term tactical win would have had a dramatic effect on federal vs state power.
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