UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 02:09 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
Right. I have questions.
If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?
If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 02:27 last edited by
Thompson was probably coming back from banging the shooter’s wife. That answers all of Jon’s questions! Occam’s razor and all that.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 02:28 last edited by jon-nyc 12 May 2024, 02:29
Impossible. I was banging the shooter’s wife at 6am this morning.
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@Renauda said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.
We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.
I was wondering about the suppressor. Is that legal anywhere?
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@taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
Right. I have questions.
If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?
If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 06:03 last edited by Aqua Letifer 12 May 2024, 06:03@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.
As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.
But yes overall this is weird AF.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 06:54 last edited by
On Tik Tok
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.
As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.
But yes overall this is weird AF.
wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 09:56 last edited byTo me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 12:21 last edited by
Yeah, to be out there waiting, at the right time, at the right place to be behind him at a time when there were few people out and around. I find it hard to believe it was coincidence or dumb luck.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 12:33 last edited by
Obviously we're all guessing at this point, but I'd imagine it's as simple as a disgruntled customer (who knew someone who died because of insurance denial) who knew of this meeting and that Brian would be there. I'm guessing he knew where Brian was staying and waited for him to leave, hopped on his bike and went over to "get ahead" of Brian, wait until he passes, and then takes the shots. Maybe not simple, but it was certainly the first explanation that came to mind after seeing the video.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 12:49 last edited by
Even that is inside knowledge. The default in such a situation would be to stay at the hotel where the event is.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:03 last edited by
I think I have cracked the code using google maps.
Brian leaves valet parking (red circle), then walks to where he is shot.
Alternatively, since he probably isn't driving himself and getting parking, he stayed at the luxury hotel across the street. He leaves this hotel, crosses the road (where the suspect sees him, and then gets in position), then as he walks by....BOOM.
BUT! There is a twist. Look at these incriminating photos. Is this BRIAN!?!?!?1/1questionmark!? WITH THE SHOOTERS WIFE? AND WHATS IN THE GREEN DRINK!???!
These are in order of (google streetcar passing) sequence.
BTW... no shortage of cameras.
The yellow camera is what we see footage from:
Here is where the suspect crossed over to:
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:05 last edited by
If I was a CEO of a big company, I'd be thinking 'bodyguards' at this point
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:18 last edited by
'Defend,' 'deny' and 'depose'
Shell casings found at the scene where the UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead by a masked gunman in front of a busy New York hotel had the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” written on them, a senior New York City law enforcement official briefed on the investigation confirmed to NBC News on Thursday.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:23 last edited by
I’ll withhold judgment until the shell casings get a chance to tell their side of the story.
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:34 last edited by
Suspect #1
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:37 last edited by
I'd disagree that it's Feinman, but considering he wrote a 2nd book "how to stalk and shoot someone with a silencer", I'd say he's certainly one of the suspects.
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To me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.
wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:42 last edited by@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
To me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.
I'd be willing to chalk that up to dumb luck. This sounds and appears both planned and a little stupid.
But this is speculation on the zaniest of levels, I obviously have no idea. Gonna be interesting, whatever they find out.
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I'd disagree that it's Feinman, but considering he wrote a 2nd book "how to stalk and shoot someone with a silencer", I'd say he's certainly one of the suspects.
wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 13:43 last edited by@89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
I'd disagree that it's Feinman, but considering he wrote a 2nd book "how to stalk and shoot someone with a silencer", I'd say he's certainly one of the suspects.
Did you see his Atlantic piece about how to rent a citibike without using a credit card?
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wrote on 5 Dec 2024, 14:58 last edited by
(a aside, I did not realize that the parent company of United Health Care (where he is CEO) is the 4th largest company in the US by revenue!)
