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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
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    #57

    On Tik Tok

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    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

      @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

      But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

      That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.

      As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.

      But yes overall this is weird AF.

      jon-nycJ Offline
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      #58

      @Aqua-Letifer

      To me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.

      You were warned.

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      • MikM Offline
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        #59

        Yeah, to be out there waiting, at the right time, at the right place to be behind him at a time when there were few people out and around. I find it hard to believe it was coincidence or dumb luck.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          Obviously we're all guessing at this point, but I'd imagine it's as simple as a disgruntled customer (who knew someone who died because of insurance denial) who knew of this meeting and that Brian would be there. I'm guessing he knew where Brian was staying and waited for him to leave, hopped on his bike and went over to "get ahead" of Brian, wait until he passes, and then takes the shots. Maybe not simple, but it was certainly the first explanation that came to mind after seeing the video.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #61

            Even that is inside knowledge. The default in such a situation would be to stay at the hotel where the event is.

            You were warned.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              I think I have cracked the code using google maps.

              Brian leaves valet parking (red circle), then walks to where he is shot.

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              Alternatively, since he probably isn't driving himself and getting parking, he stayed at the luxury hotel across the street. He leaves this hotel, crosses the road (where the suspect sees him, and then gets in position), then as he walks by....BOOM.

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              BUT! There is a twist. Look at these incriminating photos. Is this BRIAN!?!?!?1/1questionmark!? WITH THE SHOOTERS WIFE? AND WHATS IN THE GREEN DRINK!???!

              These are in order of (google streetcar passing) sequence.

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              BTW... no shortage of cameras.

              The yellow camera is what we see footage from:

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              Here is where the suspect crossed over to:

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                #63

                If I was a CEO of a big company, I'd be thinking 'bodyguards' at this point

                I was only joking

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                • George KG Offline
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                  #64

                  'Defend,' 'deny' and 'depose'

                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/live-blog/unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-live-updates-new-york-shell-casings-rcna182979

                  Shell casings found at the scene where the UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead by a masked gunman in front of a busy New York hotel had the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” written on them, a senior New York City law enforcement official briefed on the investigation confirmed to NBC News on Thursday.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #65

                    I’ll withhold judgment until the shell casings get a chance to tell their side of the story.

                    You were warned.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      #66

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                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #67

                        Suspect #1

                        You were warned.

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                        • 89th8 Offline
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                          89th
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #68

                          I'd disagree that it's Feinman, but considering he wrote a 2nd book "how to stalk and shoot someone with a silencer", I'd say he's certainly one of the suspects.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            To me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.

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                            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            @Aqua-Letifer

                            To me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.

                            I'd be willing to chalk that up to dumb luck. This sounds and appears both planned and a little stupid.

                            But this is speculation on the zaniest of levels, I obviously have no idea. Gonna be interesting, whatever they find out.

                            Please love yourself.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              I'd disagree that it's Feinman, but considering he wrote a 2nd book "how to stalk and shoot someone with a silencer", I'd say he's certainly one of the suspects.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                              I'd disagree that it's Feinman, but considering he wrote a 2nd book "how to stalk and shoot someone with a silencer", I'd say he's certainly one of the suspects.

                              Did you see his Atlantic piece about how to rent a citibike without using a credit card?

                              You were warned.

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                                #71

                                (a aside, I did not realize that the parent company of United Health Care (where he is CEO) is the 4th largest company in the US by revenue!)

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                                • George KG Offline
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                                  George K
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #72

                                  A call for violence?

                                  https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-wapo-reporter-says-we-want-executives-dead-after-murder-health-insurance-ceo?intcmp=tw_fnc

                                  Former Washington Post reporter Taylor Lorenz wrote several social media posts appearing to celebrate UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s murder while suggesting other executives should also be targeted.

                                  Thompson was shot and killed at close range in midtown Manhattan Wednesday morning, outside the Hilton Hotel. The suspect remains at large.

                                  "And people wonder why we want these executives dead," Lorenz wrote hours later, referencing Thompson’s death in a Bluesky post with a report about Blue Cross Blue Shield no longer covering anesthesia for the full length of some surgeries.

                                  Lorenz also posted an image of Blue Cross Blue Shield CEO Kim Keck with a similar article on both Bluesky and X.

                                  She reposted another user who wrote, "[H}ypothetically, would it be considered an actionable threat to start emailing other insurance CEOs a simple ‘you're next’? Completely unrelated to current events btw."

                                  She later seemed to defend the harsh posts, claiming there’s "very justified hatred" against CEOs for the "amount of death and suffering" for which they allegedly bear responsibility.

                                  "People have very justified hatred toward insurance company CEOs because these executives are responsible for an unfathomable amount of death and suffering. As someone against death and suffering, I think it’s good to call out this broken system and the ppl in power who enable it," Lorenz wrote.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
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                                    #73

                                    Lot of ignorance in this world.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    • 89th8 Offline
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                                      89th
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #74

                                      Indeed.

                                      That being said, from my sampleing of reddit and other comments, about 80% of them were "laughing at it saying, well... I'm surprised this doesn't happens more, this company screwed folks over"

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                                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                        (a aside, I did not realize that the parent company of United Health Care (where he is CEO) is the 4th largest company in the US by revenue!)

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        @taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        (a aside, I did not realize that the parent company of United Health Care (where he is CEO) is the 4th largest company in the US by revenue!)

                                        Was.

                                        too soon?

                                        You were warned.

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                                          No, I told my friend last night that he lives a few blocks away and all he replied with was "lived*"

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