UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot
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@89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Yeah he had to “cock” the gun between each shot. Yes 3-4 shots. I have to run an errand later, will drive by his house. I wonder if there is a cop outside of it now.
He wasn't cocking the gun, he was clearing a jam. Looks like a pistol, maybe small caliber. (I don't see a lot of muzzle rise and I don't see the upward flash of a compensator. So if it's small caliber with a suppressor, there's definitely a paper trail. Especially on the suppressor.
He's not a pro. Bad location. Bad shooting. Too many cameras.
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He's not a pro. Bad location. Bad shooting. Too many cameras.
Okay, so he was a nonchalant and cold blooded amateur with a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.
@Renauda said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.
We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.
I was wondering about the suppressor. Is that legal anywhere?
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
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I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
@taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
Right. I have questions.
If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?
If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
You were warned.
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@Renauda said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.
We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.
I was wondering about the suppressor. Is that legal anywhere?
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@taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?
The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.
Right. I have questions.
If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?
If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.
As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.
But yes overall this is weird AF.
Please love yourself.
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras
That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.
As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.
But yes overall this is weird AF.
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Obviously we're all guessing at this point, but I'd imagine it's as simple as a disgruntled customer (who knew someone who died because of insurance denial) who knew of this meeting and that Brian would be there. I'm guessing he knew where Brian was staying and waited for him to leave, hopped on his bike and went over to "get ahead" of Brian, wait until he passes, and then takes the shots. Maybe not simple, but it was certainly the first explanation that came to mind after seeing the video.
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I think I have cracked the code using google maps.
Brian leaves valet parking (red circle), then walks to where he is shot.
Alternatively, since he probably isn't driving himself and getting parking, he stayed at the luxury hotel across the street. He leaves this hotel, crosses the road (where the suspect sees him, and then gets in position), then as he walks by....BOOM.
BUT! There is a twist. Look at these incriminating photos. Is this BRIAN!?!?!?1/1questionmark!? WITH THE SHOOTERS WIFE? AND WHATS IN THE GREEN DRINK!???!
These are in order of (google streetcar passing) sequence.
BTW... no shortage of cameras.
The yellow camera is what we see footage from:
Here is where the suspect crossed over to:
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If I was a CEO of a big company, I'd be thinking 'bodyguards' at this point
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'Defend,' 'deny' and 'depose'
Shell casings found at the scene where the UnitedHealthcare CEO was shot dead by a masked gunman in front of a busy New York hotel had the words “deny,” “defend” and “depose” written on them, a senior New York City law enforcement official briefed on the investigation confirmed to NBC News on Thursday.
