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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    When Reagan was shot in 81 all we got was a slo-mo video on infinite loop.

    You were warned.

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      #41

      Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

      You were warned.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        What an age we live in that 12 hours after the guy is assassinated there’s a random dude breaking down the video with 1000s of views.

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        @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

        a random dude

        Not really. I started following Runkle during the Johnny Depp/Kyle Rittenhouse trials.

        He has over a hundred thousand followers on X and more than a quarter million on YouTube.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          #43

          Fair enough

          You were warned.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Fair enough

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            George K
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            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            Fair enough

            He also REALLY knows guns. He's a firearm defense attorney in Canada (Edmonton), and has argued cases before the Supreme Court in Canada.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

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              @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

              Possibly, because the gases don't bleed the same way. Besides, for a suppressor to be at its best, you need subsonic ammo, which has to be loaded down in almost all cases. Depending on the pistol, some are a lot more finicky about pressure than others. At the least, you should probably put in different weight recoil springs or buffers.

              Pistols silence better than revolvers, because of the cylinder gap. Some guns just won't work with suppressors. An M1 carbine will blow a suppressor apart (don't ask me how I know) because the .30 carbine round is a hot pistol round in truth and generates a good deal of gas to work the action

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

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                @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

                People are creatures of habit? Or he knew the victim's meeting schedule and staked out the site?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

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                  George K
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                  @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                  Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

                  I've read one report that he was there all night long, waiting. That would be a bit suspicious, no?

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    @89th said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    Yeah he had to “cock” the gun between each shot. Yes 3-4 shots. I have to run an errand later, will drive by his house. I wonder if there is a cop outside of it now.

                    He wasn't cocking the gun, he was clearing a jam. Looks like a pistol, maybe small caliber. (I don't see a lot of muzzle rise and I don't see the upward flash of a compensator. So if it's small caliber with a suppressor, there's definitely a paper trail. Especially on the suppressor.

                    He's not a pro. Bad location. Bad shooting. Too many cameras.

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                    @Jolly

                    He's not a pro. Bad location. Bad shooting. Too many cameras.

                    Okay, so he was a nonchalant and cold blooded amateur with a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.

                    Elbows up!

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                    • RenaudaR Renauda

                      @Jolly

                      He's not a pro. Bad location. Bad shooting. Too many cameras.

                      Okay, so he was a nonchalant and cold blooded amateur with a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.

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                      @Renauda said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                      a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.

                      We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.

                      I was wondering about the suppressor. Is that legal anywhere?

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

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                        @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

                        The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.

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                        • George KG George K

                          I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

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                          @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          I don't understand why he put a suppressor on the pistol. According to RUnkle (in the video), that might have been the cause of the gun misfiring.

                          Reddit agrees lol

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                          • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

                            The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.

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                            @taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

                            The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.

                            Right. I have questions.

                            If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?

                            If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?

                            But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

                            You were warned.

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                              Thompson was probably coming back from banging the shooter’s wife. That answers all of Jon’s questions! Occam’s razor and all that.

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
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                                jon-nyc
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                                #54

                                Impossible. I was banging the shooter’s wife at 6am this morning. In the Avis garage at LaGuardia.

                                You were warned.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @Renauda said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                  a firearm he ought not to have had possession of in the first place.

                                  We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.

                                  I was wondering about the suppressor. Is that legal anywhere?

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                                  @George-K

                                  We don't know about that - though NY firearm laws are strict.

                                  Merely a matter of perspective on handguns. Of no consequence.

                                  Elbows up!

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @taiwan_girl said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    Back to the shooting, how was the guy expecting him to be out on the sidewalk at 6:45am?

                                    The CEO was there for an investor conference. My guess is he did not know the exact time, but somehow knew he would be coming to the hotel. The CEO looked like he was in a suit jacket so it was not like he was out for exercise it doesn't appear.

                                    Right. I have questions.

                                    If he had the conference in that hotel, I assume he’d stay there. If so, why leave in your suit at 6-something?

                                    If he didn’t stay there (let’s say he loves the plaza), why arrive so early?

                                    But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

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                                    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

                                    That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.

                                    As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.

                                    But yes overall this is weird AF.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                        But the huge question is, why did the shooter think he might see him that early? You might say ‘he came early to be sure’, and that’s reasonable to a point, but at the same time you wouldn’t want to remain there too long as it would look suspicious and they’d have hours of your footage on security cameras

                                        That assumes a level of planning that may be over-generous.

                                        As for why leave at such a time, I'm sure it's possible he had an off-site meeting with whomever about whatever—that kinda stuff happens quite a bit at conferences for any number of reasons. Might still turn out to be weird but I don't think it's reasonable to conclude per se this is suspicious.

                                        But yes overall this is weird AF.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        @Aqua-Letifer

                                        To me the suspicion is he had some knowledge of his schedule. Beyond the mere fact of his meeting in NY and the location. But more detail than that.

                                        You were warned.

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                                          Yeah, to be out there waiting, at the right time, at the right place to be behind him at a time when there were few people out and around. I find it hard to believe it was coincidence or dumb luck.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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