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Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court

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  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

    I cant find the table (though I am sure it is out there somewhere), but it was a table showing the final votes for each Supreme court justice when the US senators voted on them.

    if I remember, judges nominated by Democrat presidents (at least in modern history) usually got a higher number of confirmation votes.

    Depending on which side you are on, both statements are true:

    1. Republicans are more willing to put bias to the side and vote strictly on qualifications
      or
    2. Democrats are more likely to nominate judges who are more in the center and hold no political view.

    LOL

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    @taiwan_girl said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

    I cant find the table (though I am sure it is out there somewhere), but it was a table showing the final votes for each Supreme court justice when the US senators voted on them.

    if I remember, judges nominated by Democrat presidents (at least in modern history) usually got a higher number of confirmation votes.

    Depending on which side you are on, both statements are true:

    1. Republicans are more willing to put bias to the side and vote strictly on qualifications
      or
    2. Democrats are more likely to nominate judges who are more in the center and hold no political view.

    LOL

    . Number one is self-evident. Anything other than that is just playing silly booger or being as dense as a rock. I've never considered you dense.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • CopperC Copper

      Today's big Ketanji news is that she is unable to define what is a woman.

      She was asked for her definition during today's hearing.

      Her answer: no, I'm not a biologist.

      Tucker is all over it.

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      George K
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      #55

      @Copper said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

      Today's big Ketanji news is that she is unable to define what is a woman.

      She was asked for her definition during today's hearing.

      Her answer: no, I'm not a biologist.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #56

        Good to see maturity in power.

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        • 89th8 89th

          Good to see maturity in power.

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          George K
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          @89th said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

          Good to see maturity in power.

          He's not in power. He's a congressperson.

          Wanna see maturity in power? Here you go:

          alt text

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            #58

            The Washington Post has no biologists on staff either:

            Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.16.45 AM copy.jpg

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              Hope they keep this up. The average person thinks it's ludicrous.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                @89th said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                Good to see maturity in power.

                He's not in power. He's a congressperson.

                Wanna see maturity in power? Here you go:

                alt text

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                @George-K said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                @89th said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                Good to see maturity in power.

                He's not in power. He's a congressperson.

                Wanna see maturity in power? Here you go:

                alt text

                You shouldnt talk bad about President Trump!! LOL

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                • George KG Offline
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                  #61

                  Well, that's inconvenient.

                  Screen Shot 2022-04-03 at 9.48.05 AM.png

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • MikM Offline
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                    That's ridiculous.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • HoraceH Online
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                      We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

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                        @Horace said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                        We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

                        Precisely.

                        "Endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights..."

                        That sounds like "natural" to me.

                        And that's the whole point of the Declaration. Some rights are not bestowed on people by the government. We have them because we are human.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          LOL: https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/01/kbj-i-would-note-that-i-am-pleased-to-be-the-sixth-woman-nominated-to-serve-on-the-supreme-court/?comments=true#comments
                          =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

                          Judge Jackson has submitted her responses to written questions. I haven't read through the entire packet, but I did find one error. She wrote on p. 64 of the PDF:

                          Finally, I would note that I am pleased to be the sixth woman nominated to serve on the Supreme Court.

                          Harriet Miers would beg to differ.

                          =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

                          Women nominees to SCOTUS:

                          O'Connor
                          Ginsburg
                          Miers
                          Sotomayor
                          Kagan
                          Barrett
                          Jackson

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Sloppy. A bad trait in a SCOTUS.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                              Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                              The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                              Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

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                                @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                Yes, the concept of rights presupposes a society. Otherwise, one has a right to try, and that's about it.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                  Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                  The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                  Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                  MikM Offline
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                                  @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                  The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                  Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                  The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                  Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                  In some philosophical discussion your point may have relevance, but the assumption of natural rights possessed by all is the platform on which the nation was built.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.

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                                    • CopperC Copper

                                      If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.

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                                      @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                        @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

                                        Only if rights are necessarily enforceable. Maybe we have unalienable rights that don’t happen to be enforceable except by society. Or by being awesome at fighting.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Despite a 11-11 tie in the committee, her nomination will proceed to the floor, where she will be confirmed.

                                          Romney
                                          Collins
                                          Murkowski

                                          Have all said, "Yes" to her nomination.

                                          Even if they had said "No," her confirmation was a foregone conclusion if all Democrats voted in her favor - because of the tie-breaker: UPS Gal.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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