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Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on last edited by
    #52

    I cant find the table (though I am sure it is out there somewhere), but it was a table showing the final votes for each Supreme court justice when the US senators voted on them.

    if I remember, judges nominated by Democrat presidents (at least in modern history) usually got a higher number of confirmation votes.

    Depending on which side you are on, both statements are true:

    1. Republicans are more willing to put bias to the side and vote strictly on qualifications
      or
    2. Democrats are more likely to nominate judges who are more in the center and hold no political view.

    LOL

    JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Good piece from Will.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/20/confirmation-questions-jackson-george-will/

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      Jolly
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      #53

      @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

      Good piece from Will.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/03/20/confirmation-questions-jackson-george-will/

      He's still alive?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

        I cant find the table (though I am sure it is out there somewhere), but it was a table showing the final votes for each Supreme court justice when the US senators voted on them.

        if I remember, judges nominated by Democrat presidents (at least in modern history) usually got a higher number of confirmation votes.

        Depending on which side you are on, both statements are true:

        1. Republicans are more willing to put bias to the side and vote strictly on qualifications
          or
        2. Democrats are more likely to nominate judges who are more in the center and hold no political view.

        LOL

        JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #54

        @taiwan_girl said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

        I cant find the table (though I am sure it is out there somewhere), but it was a table showing the final votes for each Supreme court justice when the US senators voted on them.

        if I remember, judges nominated by Democrat presidents (at least in modern history) usually got a higher number of confirmation votes.

        Depending on which side you are on, both statements are true:

        1. Republicans are more willing to put bias to the side and vote strictly on qualifications
          or
        2. Democrats are more likely to nominate judges who are more in the center and hold no political view.

        LOL

        . Number one is self-evident. Anything other than that is just playing silly booger or being as dense as a rock. I've never considered you dense.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • CopperC Copper

          Today's big Ketanji news is that she is unable to define what is a woman.

          She was asked for her definition during today's hearing.

          Her answer: no, I'm not a biologist.

          Tucker is all over it.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #55

          @Copper said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

          Today's big Ketanji news is that she is unable to define what is a woman.

          She was asked for her definition during today's hearing.

          Her answer: no, I'm not a biologist.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • 89th8 Offline
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            89th
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            #56

            Good to see maturity in power.

            George KG 1 Reply Last reply
            • 89th8 89th

              Good to see maturity in power.

              George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #57

              @89th said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

              Good to see maturity in power.

              He's not in power. He's a congressperson.

              Wanna see maturity in power? Here you go:

              alt text

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #58

                The Washington Post has no biologists on staff either:

                Screen Shot 2022-04-01 at 8.16.45 AM copy.jpg

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  #59

                  Hope they keep this up. The average person thinks it's ludicrous.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • George KG George K

                    @89th said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                    Good to see maturity in power.

                    He's not in power. He's a congressperson.

                    Wanna see maturity in power? Here you go:

                    alt text

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #60

                    @George-K said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                    @89th said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                    Good to see maturity in power.

                    He's not in power. He's a congressperson.

                    Wanna see maturity in power? Here you go:

                    alt text

                    You shouldnt talk bad about President Trump!! LOL

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
                      wrote on last edited by George K
                      #61

                      Well, that's inconvenient.

                      Screen Shot 2022-04-03 at 9.48.05 AM.png

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #62

                        That's ridiculous.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
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                          #63

                          We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • HoraceH Horace

                            We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

                            George KG Offline
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                            George K
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                            #64

                            @Horace said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                            We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

                            Precisely.

                            "Endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights..."

                            That sounds like "natural" to me.

                            And that's the whole point of the Declaration. Some rights are not bestowed on people by the government. We have them because we are human.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
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                              #65

                              LOL: https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/01/kbj-i-would-note-that-i-am-pleased-to-be-the-sixth-woman-nominated-to-serve-on-the-supreme-court/?comments=true#comments
                              =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

                              Judge Jackson has submitted her responses to written questions. I haven't read through the entire packet, but I did find one error. She wrote on p. 64 of the PDF:

                              Finally, I would note that I am pleased to be the sixth woman nominated to serve on the Supreme Court.

                              Harriet Miers would beg to differ.

                              =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

                              Women nominees to SCOTUS:

                              O'Connor
                              Ginsburg
                              Miers
                              Sotomayor
                              Kagan
                              Barrett
                              Jackson

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
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                                #66

                                Sloppy. A bad trait in a SCOTUS.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #67

                                  The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                  Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                  The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                  Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                    Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                    The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                    Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                    HoraceH Offline
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                                    #68

                                    @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                    The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                    Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                    The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                    Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                    Yes, the concept of rights presupposes a society. Otherwise, one has a right to try, and that's about it.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                      Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                      The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                      Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                      MikM Offline
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                                      #69

                                      @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                      The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                                      Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                                      The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                                      Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                                      In some philosophical discussion your point may have relevance, but the assumption of natural rights possessed by all is the platform on which the nation was built.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.

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                                        • CopperC Copper

                                          If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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