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Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #62

    That's ridiculous.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      Horace
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      #63

      We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

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        George K
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        #64

        @Horace said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

        We become so concentrated on what a judge's opinions are, we forget that the ultimate arbiter is supposed to be the constitution, not whatever some judge thinks.

        Precisely.

        "Endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights..."

        That sounds like "natural" to me.

        And that's the whole point of the Declaration. Some rights are not bestowed on people by the government. We have them because we are human.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG Offline
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          George K
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          #65

          LOL: https://reason.com/volokh/2022/04/01/kbj-i-would-note-that-i-am-pleased-to-be-the-sixth-woman-nominated-to-serve-on-the-supreme-court/?comments=true#comments
          =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

          Judge Jackson has submitted her responses to written questions. I haven't read through the entire packet, but I did find one error. She wrote on p. 64 of the PDF:

          Finally, I would note that I am pleased to be the sixth woman nominated to serve on the Supreme Court.

          Harriet Miers would beg to differ.

          =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

          Women nominees to SCOTUS:

          O'Connor
          Ginsburg
          Miers
          Sotomayor
          Kagan
          Barrett
          Jackson

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • MikM Offline
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            #66

            Sloppy. A bad trait in a SCOTUS.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              jon-nyc
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              #67

              The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

              Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

              The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

              Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                HoraceH Offline
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                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #68

                @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                Yes, the concept of rights presupposes a society. Otherwise, one has a right to try, and that's about it.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                  Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                  The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                  Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                  MikM Offline
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                  Mik
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #69

                  @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                  The idea that Homo sapiens possess 'natural' rights is objectively false.

                  Go back 30,000 years on the Savanah and tell me what 'natural rights' we had.

                  The only way the sentiment can really be understood is as an 'ought', not an 'is'.

                  Something more like "there exist a set of fundamental rights that all humans should have, and society should recognize and respect those rights"

                  In some philosophical discussion your point may have relevance, but the assumption of natural rights possessed by all is the platform on which the nation was built.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • CopperC Offline
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                    Copper
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                    #70

                    If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      If Ms. Jackson was applying for work on the Savanah that would be an important distinction.

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                      jon-nyc
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                      #71

                      @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

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                        Horace
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                        #72

                        @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                        @Copper In your own way you are conceding that such rights are conferred by society and don’t inhere to us by nature.

                        Only if rights are necessarily enforceable. Maybe we have unalienable rights that don’t happen to be enforceable except by society. Or by being awesome at fighting.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
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                          Despite a 11-11 tie in the committee, her nomination will proceed to the floor, where she will be confirmed.

                          Romney
                          Collins
                          Murkowski

                          Have all said, "Yes" to her nomination.

                          Even if they had said "No," her confirmation was a foregone conclusion if all Democrats voted in her favor - because of the tie-breaker: UPS Gal.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Copper
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                            It's about time. Now we can put all that talk about skin color behind us.

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                              Jolly
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                              We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

                              And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #76

                                Questioning a judge about her record = abuse.
                                Accusing a judge of gang rape = totally fine.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

                                  And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.

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                                  jon-nyc
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                                  #77

                                  @Jolly said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                  We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

                                  And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.

                                  I don’t believe it and fuck you.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • HoraceH Offline
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                                    Horace
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #78

                                    anybody to whom that messaging resonates, as compared to what was done to Kavanaugh, is a bona fide indoctrinated imbecile. There are millions and millions...

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @Jolly said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

                                      And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.

                                      I don’t believe it and fuck you.

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                                      Jolly
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                                      #79

                                      @jon-nyc said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                      @Jolly said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                      We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

                                      And if you don't believe that, you should not be a citizen of this country.

                                      I don’t believe it and fuck you.

                                      Move.

                                      Please.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        George K
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                                        #80

                                        Heh...

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG George K

                                          Heh...

                                          HoraceH Offline
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                                          #81

                                          @George-K said in Biden to nominate Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson to Supreme Court:

                                          Heh...

                                          Of course. We have long since established on TNCR and related forums that a natural inclination towards pretentious, self satisfied status seeking predicts leftist politics within current American society. What is most fascinating is that indoctrinated mainstreamers continue to consider themselves counter culture, simply because the idea that the mainstream is counter culture is one of the many ideas they are indoctrinated into, without rational reflection or self awareness. These are evolved apes.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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