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  • Bad Mom

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    89th8
    You know, points for creativity. I doubt that kid will be stealing drinks anytime soon.
  • High School Hockey - Live

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    89th8
    so racist
  • Dont Throw Coins at Planes

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    George KG
    @taiwan_girl said in Dont Throw Coins at Planes: “uncivilized behaviors” Hooliganism... I wonder how many years he'll spend in an all-expense-paid facility courtesy of the Chinese justice system.
  • Tired of winning....

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  • Buried Nuclear Waste vs. Melting Ice Sheets

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  • Rust armorer guilty

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    taiwan_girlT
    #1 is interesting. I know that in teh US, people can be charged with murder even if they were not directly involved. (For example, a get away driver)
  • Mr. Trump back on the ballot.

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    HoraceH
    David French in the NYT, on this ruling: ================================================ As of Monday, March 4, 2024, Section 3 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution is essentially a dead letter, at least as it applies to candidates for federal office. Under the U.S. Supreme Court’s ruling that reversed the Colorado Supreme Court’s decision striking Donald Trump from the state’s primary ballot, even insurrectionists who’ve violated their previous oath of office can hold federal office, unless and until Congress passes specific legislation to enforce Section 3. In the aftermath of the oral argument last month, legal observers knew with near-certainty that the Supreme Court was unlikely to apply Section 3 to Trump. None of the justices seemed willing to uphold the Colorado court’s ruling, and only Justice Sonia Sotomayor gave any meaningful indication that she might dissent. The only real question remaining was the reasoning for the court’s decision. Would the ruling be broad or narrow? A narrow ruling for Trump might have held, for example, that Colorado didn’t provide him with enough due process when it determined that Section 3 applied. Or the court could have held that Trump, as president, was not an “officer of the United States” within the meaning of the section. Such a ruling would have kept Trump on the ballot, but it would also have kept Section 3 viable to block insurrectionists from the House or Senate and from all other federal offices. A somewhat broader ruling might have held that Trump did not engage in insurrection or rebellion or provide aid and comfort to the enemies of the Constitution. Such a ruling would have sharply limited Section 3 to apply almost exclusively to Civil War-style conflicts, an outcome at odds with the text and original public meaning of the section. It’s worth noting that, by not taking this path, the court did not exonerate Trump from participating in an insurrection. But instead of any of these options, the court went with arguably the broadest reasoning available: that Section 3 isn’t self-executing, and thus has no force or effect in the absence of congressional action. This argument is rooted in Section 5 of the amendment, which states that “Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” But Section 5, on its face, does not give Congress exclusive power to enforce the amendment. As Justices Elena Kagan, Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson pointed out in their own separate concurring opinion, “All the Reconstruction amendments (including the due process and equal protection guarantees and prohibition of slavery) ‘are self-executing,’ meaning that they do not depend on legislation.” While Congress may pass legislation to help enforce the 14th Amendment, it is not required to do so, and the 14th Amendment still binds federal, state and local governments even if Congress refuses to act. But now Section 3 is different from other sections of the amendment. It requires federal legislation to enforce its terms, at least as applied to candidates for federal office. Through inaction alone, Congress can effectively erase part of the 14th Amendment. It’s extremely difficult to square this ruling with the text of Section 3. The language is clearly mandatory. The first words are “No person shall be” a member of Congress or a state or federal officer if that person has engaged in insurrection or rebellion or provided aid or comfort to the enemies of the Constitution. The section then says, “But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each house, remove such disability.” In other words, the Constitution imposes the disability, and only a supermajority of Congress can remove it. But under the Supreme Court’s reasoning, the meaning is inverted: The Constitution merely allows Congress to impose the disability, and if Congress chooses not to enact legislation enforcing the section, then the disability does not exist. The Supreme Court has effectively replaced a very high bar for allowing insurrectionists into federal office — a supermajority vote by Congress — with the lowest bar imaginable: congressional inaction. As Kagan, Sotomayor and Jackson point out, this approach is also inconsistent with the constitutional approach to other qualifications for the presidency. We can bar individuals from holding office who are under the age limit or who don’t meet the relevant citizenship requirement without congressional enforcement legislation. We can enforce the two-term presidential term limit without congressional enforcement legislation. Section 3 now stands apart not only from the rest of the 14th Amendment, but also from the other constitutional requirements for the presidency. In one important respect, the court’s ruling on Monday is worse and more consequential than the Senate’s decision to acquit Trump after his Jan. 6 impeachment trial in 2021. Impeachment is entirely a political process, and the actions of one Senate have no bearing on the actions of future Senates. But a Supreme Court ruling has immense precedential power. The court’s decision is now the law. It would be clearly preferable if Congress were to pass enforcement legislation that established explicit procedures for resolving disputes under Section 3, including setting the burden of proof and creating timetables and deadlines for filing challenges and hearing appeals. Establishing a uniform process is better than living with a patchwork of state proceedings. But the fact that Congress has not acted should not effectively erase the words from the constitutional page. Chaotic enforcement of the Constitution may be suboptimal. But it’s far better than not enforcing the Constitution at all. ============================================= I think this is mostly coherent. He's proceeding from the assumption that Trump is an insurrectionist, which of course I disagree with. But if you assume that Trump is an insurrectionist, the court's ruling seems to take the teeth out of section three of the amendment. We don't need congress to prevent a 20 year old from running for President. Wny do we need congress to prevent an insurrectionist? The only ruling that could settle this is a ruling on whether Trump is an insurrectionist. To that point, French makes his most ridiculous claim: A somewhat broader ruling might have held that Trump did not engage in insurrection or rebellion or provide aid and comfort to the enemies of the Constitution. Such a ruling would have sharply limited Section 3 to apply almost exclusively to Civil War-style conflicts, So to French, the top notch insurrection is leading a military coup, and the next notch down is what Trump did. What Trump did is indistinguishable in its seriousness as a coup attempt from any other coup attempt that is not an outright military coup.
  • All about squirrels

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    Aqua LetiferA
    You want to read about squirrels, do you? This will knock you on your ass: https://www.scribd.com/doc/91974637/Loren-c-Eiseley-the-Fire-Apes
  • Man of the people

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    Aqua LetiferA
    @Doctor-Phibes said in Man of the people: @Aqua-Letifer said in Man of the people: You can't possibly tell me that: He'd fuck up more than the assholes who are going to win this year It's a little early for you to be writing him off like that Okay fair.
  • No more IVF in Alabama?

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    AxtremusA
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/us/alabama-ivf-fertility-protection/index.html Alabama governor signs IVF protection bill into law, but experts say it will take more work to protect fertility services ... The wording of the legislation does not clearly define what falls under in vitro fertilization services, leaving a question around the storage and transportation of embryos, she noted. . Experts have also expressed concern that while the legislation protects providers from liability when it comes to the destruction of embryos, it could also insulate them from standard medical malpractice claims. ...
  • Meanwhile, in Iowa...

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    jon-nycJ
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  • If you encounter a bear...

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    Aqua LetiferA
    @LuFins-Dad said in If you encounter a bear...: If they are slower, you don’t have to push them down. You push the friend down if you’re the slower one… I see you are wise in the way of bears.
  • Sydney Sweeney has brought boobs back

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    AxtremusA
    @LuFins-Dad said in Sydney Sweeney has brought boobs back: @89th said in Sydney Sweeney has brought boobs back: Men are simple creatures. Not as simple as you think or is being implied. Everybody thinks that it’s all about the boobs, but it’s not. The fact that she’s not 300 lbs is important as well. Or has a mouthful of rotten teeth or beard or mustache or Adam's Apple or dick (as far as we can tell).
  • San Francisco No Longer a Progressive City?

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    MikM
    Reality is a kick in the head that a lot more people need.
  • Six times more likely

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    jon-nycJ
    @LuFins-Dad said in Six times more likely: May I ask the simple 2 word question “By who?”? No. But we’ll allow “By whom?” ETA. Sorry. Just scrolled more and saw you had been appropriately admonished for your grammar.
  • ChatGPT 4.0 > Gemini

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  • Wear boots!

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    jon-nycJ
    Hurts to watch. I broke a bone in my foot in January. It’s only recently healed enough for me to walk normally.
  • Fair

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    Aqua LetiferA
    @Doctor-Phibes said in Fair: @89th said in Fair: In general, you don't want to see people lose their jobs. That being said, I don't know about you but every single organization I've worked in... you could fire probably 50% of the workforce tomorrow without an impact to the company. The key is knowing which folks aren't adding value and which ones are. I'm not saying firing people is wrong, obviously it needs to happen sometimes. I'm saying getting a kick out it is sick. The fact that other people get a kick out of it too doesn't make it ok. I'm honestly not virtue signaling here, I found firing people really distressing. I've also had two people crying in my office because of performance reviews which I probably could have handled better. Anybody who enjoys that kind of shit can go fuck themselves, I don't care how rich they are. A friend of mine at another company in the UK fired somebody who then went and hung himself. Believe me, I get it. I learned just last week there is a massive group of folks I work with who want us all laid off. They really want it. Like real bad. And they have more clout than we do. Things aren't great for people like me right now in the job market. The frustrating thing is that it's just like desktop publishing in the 90s. Our careers aren't at risk because the computers can replace us—they're at risk because morons think they can. (The folks in the 90s eventually got their careers back with new job titles but it was a rough half-decade for them). And that's just my corner of things but once our little toys become self-aware, well, what makes you think you aren't going to have the same problems? Or much bigger ones? But a lot of my co-workers got laid off last year and no one's speaking up for them because Elon Musk didn't do the laying off. People care about the Twitter employees because it made the news. It made the news because Elon Musk is newsworthy. And he's newsworthy because he elicits emotions in people.
  • Who is the most skilled person?

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    AxtremusA
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  • The SAT has gone all digital

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    LuFins DadL
    @Copper said in The SAT has gone all digital: I hope they finally designed the tests with equality equity in mind. I would hate to see someone be disappointed with their score. FIFY