@xenon And it should remain so. Would be a sad day that we should ever adopt republican governance or values.

@xenon said in Dominant: @jolly said in Dominant: And there are far worse monsters than Trump could ever be, prowling out in the political jungle. True, but my hope is that there are also better ones. Might well be wrong, but that's the general path most countries take...A revolution to a free society, then a creeping incrementalism to a socialist society, followed by a turn to strong, central figure of some kind.

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@89th said in The Twitter Fascination: @doctor-phibes said in The Twitter Fascination: In real life I'm a lot better looking and smarter. I've met him, and this is fake news. SAD! That was me sober. When I've had a few beers I'm like a cross between Brad Pitt and Stephen Hawking. Well OK, I debate like Brad Pitt and I dance like Stephen Hawking, but still, it's a freaking start, OK???

@jon-nyc said in Civil War widow dies: Mrs. Janeway, who lived her whole life in Blaine, about 30 miles north of Knoxville, was born 44 years after the Civil War ended. This would be like someone who turned 18 in 2007 marrying a WWII veteran.

I wonder if she'll represent herself.

@mik said in Trump promises 'orderly transition': An orderly transition comes after the election results have been announced. Not after you have exhausted all possibility of hanging on. He could have contested the results while still participating in the transition. That seems like a good way to look at it.

@horace said in Sent to the wrong account: I'll bet Trump and all of his cronies received a check due to this "accident". Of course...

@mik said in Khamenei chimes in: “The boomerang came back to them. It was them that launched color revolutions. In fifty years they carried out three dozen, if not more. They toppled the leaders in North Africa and Yugoslavia and ousted ... [image: 1610126125941-a7a388ed-6c2e-4258-a140-63856546cb7c.jpeg]

Why do they call themselves the NOQ Report? Elsewhere on the website: Moderna’s mRNA injections are an ‘operating system’ designed to program humans and hack their biological functions Professor in Texas lawsuit: Odds of Biden winning all four contested states ‘less than one in a quadrillion to the fourth power’ Yeah, yeah, I know, don't shoot the messenger. If he's already brain dead there probably isn't much point, anway.

@taiwan_girl said in Death Threats Against Election Workers: @aqua-letifer True. Maybe the devout President Trump supporters are brainwashed. Maybe the way President Trump blinks his eyes hypnotizes them into doing crazy things. Lol lol well I don't think Trump is Charles Manson or anywhere close, but there is a legal point to be made here. You're not off the hook for inciting a mob just because you're a coward and watched what you did to the country behind your secret service detail.

@copper said in So what will happen to all the arrested.: In all fairness, if they put the names of a few patriotic rioters on the back of NFL helmets we will have an equitable solution. Just don't forget to kneel.

@axtremus said in Political violence is always wrong: @george-k said in Political violence is always wrong: Read it all https://twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1347154640039718912 Not generalizable. Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Revolutionary War render the ideology of a democratic republic irrelevant? Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Civil War rendered the ideology of emancipation irrelevant? Good point Political violence is required from time to time Does that make it right? That depends on which side you are on and your tolerance for hypocrisy

@jolly ‘Tis my point.

Who said I believed it?

Ugh

@andyd said in Capitol security woefully unprepared...: Leaving aside the fact there was no preparation in place for a known demonstration planned in advance, I was astounded watching Capitol security run away, and really really angry seeing your democracy so easily overrun by domestic terrorists in full riot. Your elected representatives deserve the best protection. I'm no security expert but Jesus wept, this is your heart of the country. The security need professional training and wear video cams. And a glock minimum, none of your six-shooter stuff. It's what our armed police carry, along with taser, and either shotguns or machine guns, and body armour. Shoot into the legs of anyone forcing entry past the entrance doorway to the building. No excuses for anyone crossing that line. Glocks hold up to 33 rounds I think. Machine guns to back up. And for the uniforms at the entrance cradling their machine gun who smile and direct you to the public entrance, let tham have the confidence that colleagues should be arriving from nearby in the building within a minute should trouble happen. I just put the news on to find a law enforcer died, not sure if inside or out of the building. It's easy to say, but if I was VP Pence I'd be wanting to use the PPU to go arrest Trump and put him in jail for incitement to riot and causing death. God only knows what Pence is going through, having been ushered into a bunker and then having to deal with an unstable boss. Complete shitstorm for him. And your ignorance is vast and well on display in this statement.

@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: @klaus said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: @xenon said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: @larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election: the side who believes this election was stolen feels Too much "believes" and "feels" - we have laws for a reason. Once feels > laws - then, I agree, we have a whole whack of new problems. For longer than you've been alive your side has based it's entire worldview on "believing" and "feeling". You just jumped the shark. Who are you talking to? You quoted my post. It should be obvious that I'm talking to you. The problem is that you seem to be unable to distinguish "individual who disagrees with me on point X" from "the other tribe, which I hate". You do this every day on this forum. There is no uniform "other tribe". If you want to have a productive conversation with people, you need to address them as individuals, not as members of a tribe. You always seem to need a box with a label in which you can put people and treat them all the same. I go out of my way to point out that (99% of the time) I'm not talking about any specific individual. You see what you want to see, I see some individuals who think I'm talking about them personally every time I say something. If you have trouble sorting it out its not my fault. No, it's quite often not at all clear. Also, who are you talking to when you are not talking to an individual? Can, whoever you attack, defend himself/herself here?