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  • 89th8 89th

    I like the leaked version, but I also liked Windows Vista so maybe don't listen to me.

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    Klaus
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    #12

    @89th said in Windows 11 leaked:

    I like the leaked version, but I also liked Windows Vista so maybe don't listen to me.

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      Axtremus
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      #13

      Caulk it.

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        xenon
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        #14

        UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

        I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

        Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

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        • X xenon

          UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

          I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

          Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #15

          @xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:

          UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

          I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

          Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

          Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:

            UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

            I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

            Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

            Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.

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            Klaus
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            #16

            @aqua-letifer said in Windows 11 leaked:

            Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.

            Sometimes there are real revolutions. The most significant for UI design was probably the "Mother of All Demos" from 1968.

            Link to video

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #17

              Link to video

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                #18

                Link to video

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  Link to video

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                  @doctor-phibes so I went to this guy's youtube page...

                  The $1000 monitor stand.....

                  Link to video

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #20

                    It's funny because it's true

                    I was only joking

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                    • markM Offline
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                      mark
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                      #21

                      Link to video

                      Check out the desk lamp. I have an old Mac like that... hmmm. lol

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                      • markM mark

                        Link to video

                        Check out the desk lamp. I have an old Mac like that... hmmm. lol

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                        George K
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                        #22

                        @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          George K
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                          Oh, wait. He's Canadian. That explains it.

                          He says that people assumed that with the supposed announcement that 10 was the end of Windows, upgrades would be free.

                          "Nothing works like that."

                          Um....Linux and (ahem) Mac OS work like that.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • George KG George K

                            @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            @george-k said in Windows 11 leaked:

                            @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

                            He is exceptionally annoying, but he does some very informative stuff, and he typically gives very honest reviews.

                            I was only joking

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                            • George KG George K

                              @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

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                              @george-k Oh yes, Linus is very annoying. But, as Phibes, said, he does honest reviews.

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                                #26

                                Yeah, it's "free," but your 3-year-old top-of-the line MICROSOFT computer won't be able to run it.

                                https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/22549725/microsoft-windows-11-cpu-support-tpm-hardware-requirements

                                Windows 11 will only officially support 8th Gen and newer Intel Core processors, alongside Apollo Lake and newer Pentium and Celeron processors.

                                That potentially rules out millions of existing Windows 10 devices from upgrading to Windows 11 with full support, and even devices like Microsoft’s own Surface Studio 2 which the company is still selling right now for $3,499. Older devices that aren’t officially supported will be met with a warning during the Windows 11 install that the upgrade is not recommended, but the OS should still install.

                                Windows 11 will also only officially support AMD Ryzen 2000 and newer processors, and 2nd Gen or newer EPYC chips.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  #27

                                  TPM. Idiots made that decision. They will remove the requirement before launch. If they don't they are only shooting themselves in the foot.

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                                    mark
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                                    #28

                                    And the scalpers are already on it.

                                    https://www.windowscentral.com/psa-scalpers-are-hoarding-tpm20-modules?fbclid=IwAR3qsuUvqTtZ7ikF1j9v9bP-o66NIGgpWnYclAjqPWyyJM9LMhsdMtqXNP0

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                                    • George KG Offline
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                                      George K
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                                      Microsoft has pulled their compatibility checker for Windows 11.

                                      They said:

                                      Windows 11 raises the bar for security by requiring hardware that can enable protections like Windows Hello, Device Encryption, virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI) and Secure Boot. The combination of these features has been shown to reduce malware by 60% on tested devices. To meet the principle, all Windows 11 supported CPUs have an embedded TPM, support secure boot, and support VBS and specific VBS capabilities.

                                      [...]

                                      Using the principles above, we are confident that devices running on Intel 8th generation processors and AMD Zen 2 as well as Qualcomm 7 and 8 Series will meet our principles around security and reliability and minimum system requirements for Windows 11.

                                      ZDNet comments: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-microsoft-apologizes-for-compatibility-confusion-hints-at-changes/

                                      My estimates assume that 90% of 2020 PC sales and roughly 60% of 2019 PC sales meet those minimum requirements, with most 2018 models (based on the earlier Intel 7th Gen CPUs and AMD Zen 1 models) failing to make the Windows 11 compatibility floor. That means the population of Windows PCs capable of upgrading to Windows 11 is probably 500 million or less, or about 38% of the installed base.

                                      62% of PCs won't be able to update? YGBFKM!

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Doctor Phibes
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                                        #30

                                        I wonder whether that unimaginably stupid idea came from the technical folks or marketing.

                                        Or maybe they got together on it? That's never a good idea.

                                        I was only joking

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:

                                          UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

                                          I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

                                          Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

                                          Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.

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                                          @aqua-letifer said in Windows 11 leaked:

                                          @xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:

                                          UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

                                          I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

                                          Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

                                          Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
                                          I wonder given cloud vs on premise what limits are introduced. There are a number of new variables to learn from.

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