Windows 11 leaked
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UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.
I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.
Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.
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UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.
I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.
Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.
@xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:
UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.
I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.
Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.
Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
Please love yourself.
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@xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:
UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.
I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.
Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.
Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
@aqua-letifer said in Windows 11 leaked:
Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
Sometimes there are real revolutions. The most significant for UI design was probably the "Mother of All Demos" from 1968.
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It's funny because it's true
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Check out the desk lamp. I have an old Mac like that... hmmm. lol
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Check out the desk lamp. I have an old Mac like that... hmmm. lol
@mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!
@george-k said in Windows 11 leaked:
@mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!
He is exceptionally annoying, but he does some very informative stuff, and he typically gives very honest reviews.
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@mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!
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Yeah, it's "free," but your 3-year-old top-of-the line MICROSOFT computer won't be able to run it.
Windows 11 will only officially support 8th Gen and newer Intel Core processors, alongside Apollo Lake and newer Pentium and Celeron processors.
That potentially rules out millions of existing Windows 10 devices from upgrading to Windows 11 with full support, and even devices like Microsoft’s own Surface Studio 2 which the company is still selling right now for $3,499. Older devices that aren’t officially supported will be met with a warning during the Windows 11 install that the upgrade is not recommended, but the OS should still install.
Windows 11 will also only officially support AMD Ryzen 2000 and newer processors, and 2nd Gen or newer EPYC chips.
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And the scalpers are already on it.
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Microsoft has pulled their compatibility checker for Windows 11.
They said:
Windows 11 raises the bar for security by requiring hardware that can enable protections like Windows Hello, Device Encryption, virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI) and Secure Boot. The combination of these features has been shown to reduce malware by 60% on tested devices. To meet the principle, all Windows 11 supported CPUs have an embedded TPM, support secure boot, and support VBS and specific VBS capabilities.
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Using the principles above, we are confident that devices running on Intel 8th generation processors and AMD Zen 2 as well as Qualcomm 7 and 8 Series will meet our principles around security and reliability and minimum system requirements for Windows 11.
ZDNet comments: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-microsoft-apologizes-for-compatibility-confusion-hints-at-changes/
My estimates assume that 90% of 2020 PC sales and roughly 60% of 2019 PC sales meet those minimum requirements, with most 2018 models (based on the earlier Intel 7th Gen CPUs and AMD Zen 1 models) failing to make the Windows 11 compatibility floor. That means the population of Windows PCs capable of upgrading to Windows 11 is probably 500 million or less, or about 38% of the installed base.
62% of PCs won't be able to update? YGBFKM!
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I wonder whether that unimaginably stupid idea came from the technical folks or marketing.
Or maybe they got together on it? That's never a good idea.
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@xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:
UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.
I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.
Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.
Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
@aqua-letifer said in Windows 11 leaked:
@xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:
UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.
I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.
Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.
Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
I wonder given cloud vs on premise what limits are introduced. There are a number of new variables to learn from. -
In case you are wondering
In the windows search box type "control panel"
Select System and Security
Then select System
You will see your Processor model
How to Find the Generation of Intel
Core
ProcessorsIn Intel
Core Processors, the generation of the processor is the first number after i9, i7, i5, or i3.Here are some examples:
11th Gen examples
Intel
Core Processor i7-1165G7 because 11 number is listed after i7Intel
Core Processor i5-1130G7 because number 11 is listed after i510th Gen examples
Intel
Core Processor i7-1065G7 because number 10 is listed after i7Intel
Core Processor i5-10210U because 10 number is listed after i59th Gen example
Intel
Core Processor i9-9900K Processor is 9th generation because number 9 is listed after i9.8th Gen examples
Intel
Core Processor i7-8650U Processor is 8th generation because the number 8 is listed after i7.Intel
Core Processor i5-8600 Processor is 8th generation because the number 8 is listed after i5.7th Gen examples
Intel
Core Processor i7-7920HQ Processor is 7th generation because the number 7 is listed after i7.Intel
Core Processor i5-7200U Processor is 7th generation because the number 7 is listed after i5.Intel
Core Processor i3-7350K Processor is 7th generation because the number 7 is listed after i3.
