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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    Link to video

    George KG Offline
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    George K
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    @doctor-phibes so I went to this guy's youtube page...

    The $1000 monitor stand.....

    Link to video

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      #20

      It's funny because it's true

      I was only joking

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      • markM Offline
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        #21

        Link to video

        Check out the desk lamp. I have an old Mac like that... hmmm. lol

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        • markM mark

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          Check out the desk lamp. I have an old Mac like that... hmmm. lol

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          George K
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          #22

          @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            Oh, wait. He's Canadian. That explains it.

            He says that people assumed that with the supposed announcement that 10 was the end of Windows, upgrades would be free.

            "Nothing works like that."

            Um....Linux and (ahem) Mac OS work like that.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • George KG George K

              @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #24

              @george-k said in Windows 11 leaked:

              @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

              He is exceptionally annoying, but he does some very informative stuff, and he typically gives very honest reviews.

              I was only joking

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              • George KG George K

                @mark that is easily the most annoying person I’ve seen all day. And, judging from the company on this forum, that’s a hell of a comment!

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                @george-k Oh yes, Linus is very annoying. But, as Phibes, said, he does honest reviews.

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                • George KG Offline
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                  #26

                  Yeah, it's "free," but your 3-year-old top-of-the line MICROSOFT computer won't be able to run it.

                  https://www.theverge.com/2021/6/25/22549725/microsoft-windows-11-cpu-support-tpm-hardware-requirements

                  Windows 11 will only officially support 8th Gen and newer Intel Core processors, alongside Apollo Lake and newer Pentium and Celeron processors.

                  That potentially rules out millions of existing Windows 10 devices from upgrading to Windows 11 with full support, and even devices like Microsoft’s own Surface Studio 2 which the company is still selling right now for $3,499. Older devices that aren’t officially supported will be met with a warning during the Windows 11 install that the upgrade is not recommended, but the OS should still install.

                  Windows 11 will also only officially support AMD Ryzen 2000 and newer processors, and 2nd Gen or newer EPYC chips.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • markM Offline
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                    TPM. Idiots made that decision. They will remove the requirement before launch. If they don't they are only shooting themselves in the foot.

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                    • markM Offline
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                      And the scalpers are already on it.

                      https://www.windowscentral.com/psa-scalpers-are-hoarding-tpm20-modules?fbclid=IwAR3qsuUvqTtZ7ikF1j9v9bP-o66NIGgpWnYclAjqPWyyJM9LMhsdMtqXNP0

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                      • George KG Offline
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                        Microsoft has pulled their compatibility checker for Windows 11.

                        They said:

                        Windows 11 raises the bar for security by requiring hardware that can enable protections like Windows Hello, Device Encryption, virtualization-based security (VBS), hypervisor-protected code integrity (HVCI) and Secure Boot. The combination of these features has been shown to reduce malware by 60% on tested devices. To meet the principle, all Windows 11 supported CPUs have an embedded TPM, support secure boot, and support VBS and specific VBS capabilities.

                        [...]

                        Using the principles above, we are confident that devices running on Intel 8th generation processors and AMD Zen 2 as well as Qualcomm 7 and 8 Series will meet our principles around security and reliability and minimum system requirements for Windows 11.

                        ZDNet comments: https://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-11-microsoft-apologizes-for-compatibility-confusion-hints-at-changes/

                        My estimates assume that 90% of 2020 PC sales and roughly 60% of 2019 PC sales meet those minimum requirements, with most 2018 models (based on the earlier Intel 7th Gen CPUs and AMD Zen 1 models) failing to make the Windows 11 compatibility floor. That means the population of Windows PCs capable of upgrading to Windows 11 is probably 500 million or less, or about 38% of the installed base.

                        62% of PCs won't be able to update? YGBFKM!

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          I wonder whether that unimaginably stupid idea came from the technical folks or marketing.

                          Or maybe they got together on it? That's never a good idea.

                          I was only joking

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:

                            UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

                            I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

                            Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

                            Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.

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                            @aqua-letifer said in Windows 11 leaked:

                            @xenon said in Windows 11 leaked:

                            UI design seems to be moving towards flat and sleek at the expense of usability.

                            I remember big buttons with black outlines (now you gotta hover over the icons to see the button outlines). Big input boxes for text fields, large scrolling bars with precise control.

                            Yes - the UI's look better these days. I think they're also less functional.

                            Yeah, but these kinds of things happen in waves. It'll swing back soon and old will become new again.
                            I wonder given cloud vs on premise what limits are introduced. There are a number of new variables to learn from.

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                              Copper
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                              In case you are wondering

                              In the windows search box type "control panel"

                              Select System and Security

                              Then select System

                              You will see your Processor model

                              How to Find the Generation of Intel® Core™ Processors

                              In Intel® Core™ Processors, the generation of the processor is the first number after i9, i7, i5, or i3.

                              Here are some examples:

                              11th Gen examples

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i7-1165G7 because 11 number is listed after i7

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i5-1130G7 because number 11 is listed after i5

                              10th Gen examples

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i7-1065G7 because number 10 is listed after i7

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i5-10210U because 10 number is listed after i5

                              9th Gen example

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i9-9900K Processor is 9th generation because number 9 is listed after i9.

                              8th Gen examples

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i7-8650U Processor is 8th generation because the number 8 is listed after i7.

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i5-8600 Processor is 8th generation because the number 8 is listed after i5.

                              7th Gen examples

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i7-7920HQ Processor is 7th generation because the number 7 is listed after i7.

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i5-7200U Processor is 7th generation because the number 7 is listed after i5.

                              Intel® Core™ Processor i3-7350K Processor is 7th generation because the number 7 is listed after i3.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
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                                How to Make Windows 11 Look and Feel Like Windows 10

                                Run the new OS, but with the look and feel of Windows 10.

                                There are lots of reasons to upgrade to the preview version of Windows 11, but that doesn't mean you have to live with all aspects of the new user interface. Perhaps, like me, you don't like the new Start Menu because it takes up so much space. Or maybe you hate the fact that File Explorer is missing a ribbon menu or that right click menus only hold 7 options and force you to click "Show more options" to see them all.

                                The good news is that, with a combination of registry tweaks, third-party apps and some different art work, you can get some of the look and feel of Windows 10 back in Windows 11. The bad news is that Microsoft doesn't seem to want you to go back to a previous UI so it may disable any registry hacks you use in future updates. And these are hacks for a frequently-changing beta OS so there's no guarantee you won't run into bugs; proceed at your own risk.

                                I have a better idea: Stick with Windows 10.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Apple has gone ARM for the laptops and desktops, Microsoft will also move their Surface line if laptops and tablets to ARM. I run Windows in a Parallels virtual machine anyway. I will just use the ARM version of Windows whenever Parallels and the Windows application I need support ARM natively. I will keep my current Intel-based Mac with Windows 10 running in Parallels until then.

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