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  • M Away
    M Away
    Mik
    wrote on 14 May 2021, 13:30 last edited by
    #19

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    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • J Jolly
      14 May 2021, 13:25

      @loki said in The ransom:

      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

      @loki said in The ransom:

      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

      All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

      Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

      Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

      That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

      So tell me exactly what you would do.

      What do you do with pirates?

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      Loki
      wrote on 14 May 2021, 13:31 last edited by
      #20

      @jolly said in The ransom:

      @loki said in The ransom:

      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

      @loki said in The ransom:

      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

      All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

      Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

      Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

      That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

      So tell me exactly what you would do.

      What do you do with pirates?

      I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

      J 1 Reply Last reply 14 May 2021, 13:39
      • M Away
        M Away
        Mik
        wrote on 14 May 2021, 13:36 last edited by
        #21

        The right thing to do is harden our systems and increase our ability to track hackers.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        • L Loki
          14 May 2021, 13:31

          @jolly said in The ransom:

          @loki said in The ransom:

          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

          @loki said in The ransom:

          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

          Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

          That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

          So tell me exactly what you would do.

          What do you do with pirates?

          I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 14 May 2021, 13:39 last edited by
          #22

          @loki said in The ransom:

          @jolly said in The ransom:

          @loki said in The ransom:

          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

          @loki said in The ransom:

          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

          Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

          That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

          So tell me exactly what you would do.

          What do you do with pirates?

          I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

          Oh, I think they had to be paid. But, as Aqua said, pay them in a way you can possibly trace the money.

          I'm not convinced these guys approach this stuff with a jihadist's fervor. I think if you stack
          enough bodies, you can get their attention. It quits being fun when a drone sticks a Hellfire up your car's tailpipe and you make the evening news.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on 14 May 2021, 14:14 last edited by
            #23

            You guys did see the parts where they still had to bring up backup servers anyway because the solution they were sent worked for shit? They bought a day at most.

            The Brad

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            • M Away
              M Away
              Mik
              wrote on 14 May 2021, 15:04 last edited by
              #24

              Stolen from George K:

              A pirate walks into a bar with a paper towel on his head. The bartender asks, "Hey, what's with the paper towel?"

              The pirate says, "Argh, I've got a Bounty on me head!"

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 14 May 2021, 20:33 last edited by
                #25

                "On Thursday, Colonial Pipeline announced that its systems were back up and running — with very little thanks, it would seem, to that payment of 75 bitcoin."

                https://mashable.com/article/colonial-pipeline-paid-bitcoin-ransomware/

                They had the backups. They paid within hours and the decryptor sucked. How many days or hours did they waste with that? Could the system have been working on Wednesday or even Tuesday if they had just gone straight to work restoring the backups? Who knows? But paying the ransom did absolutely nothing except promote more attacks.

                The Brad

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                • J Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 15 May 2021, 00:42 last edited by
                  #26

                  Do I smell fear?

                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/05/14/the-ransomware-group-behind-the-colonial-pipeline-hack-says-it-is-disbanding/?sh=27a8a5ba7775

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
                    wrote on 15 May 2021, 02:57 last edited by
                    #27

                    sort of like the mob shooting a cop back in the day.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • RainmanR Offline
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                      Rainman
                      wrote on 15 May 2021, 08:45 last edited by
                      #28

                      How is it NOT possible to catch the hackers, or at least the one person that accesses the money?
                      Is the answer in the article I didn't read?

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                      • M Away
                        M Away
                        Mik
                        wrote on 15 May 2021, 19:47 last edited by
                        #29

                        https://www.barrons.com/news/servers-of-colonial-pipeline-hacker-darkside-forced-down-security-firm-01621002013

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

                        LuFins DadL 1 Reply Last reply 15 May 2021, 23:50
                        • M Mik
                          15 May 2021, 19:47

                          https://www.barrons.com/news/servers-of-colonial-pipeline-hacker-darkside-forced-down-security-firm-01621002013

                          LuFins DadL Offline
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                          LuFins Dad
                          wrote on 15 May 2021, 23:50 last edited by
                          #30

                          @mik that headline was horrible...

                          The Brad

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on 25 May 2021, 15:11 last edited by
                            #31

                            https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/05/25/colonial-hack-pipeline-dhs-cybersecurity/

                            DHS to issue first-ever cybersecurity regulations for pipelines after Colonial hack

                            Two directives will seek oversight of the industry after a ransomware attack upended gas availability in the southeast U.S. for 11 days

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                              Loki
                              wrote on 7 Jun 2021, 19:19 last edited by
                              #32

                              Wow

                              https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/colonial-pipeline-ransomware-recovered/index.html

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