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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    They paid it almost immediately, and guess what...

    https://www.zdnet.com/article/colonial-pipeline-paid-close-to-5-million-in-ransomware-blackmail-payment/

    Colonial Pipeline reportedly paid the ransomware group responsible for a cyberattack last week close to $5 million to decrypt locked systems.

    On Thursday, Bloomberg reported that two people close to the matter said a blackmail demand was agreed to within hours of the cyberattack that has impacted the fuel giant's systems for close to a week.

    On May 7, Colonial Pipeline experienced a ransomware attack which forced the company to temporarily close down its operations and freeze IT systems to isolate the infection.

    While pipelines are now back in business, it will be days before normal service resumes -- and the issues surrounding supply have already caused panic buying across some cities in the United States.

    The publication says that the payment was made to DarkSide malware operators in cryptocurrency in order to secure a decryption key and restore systems rendered inoperational by the ransomware.

    However, the decryptor was reported to be "so slow" that backups were also used in restoration efforts.

    @Jolly 's idea is sounding better and better.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      Not only that, but they apologized, saying they only wanted money, not to disrupt our energy picture. I suppose it is possible they did not know the impact of what they did, but I doubt it.

      Kill them all.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • L Offline
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        Loki
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        I wonder if for $10 million they would have gotten a faster decryptor?

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

          The Brad

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

            L Offline
            L Offline
            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #13

            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

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            • L Loki

              @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

              All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

              Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

              Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

              LuFins DadL Offline
              LuFins DadL Offline
              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @loki said in The ransom:

              @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

              All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

              Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

              Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

              That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins DadL Offline
                LuFins Dad
                wrote on last edited by
                #15

                And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @loki said in The ransom:

                  @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                  All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                  Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                  Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                  That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                  L Offline
                  L Offline
                  Loki
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                  @loki said in The ransom:

                  @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                  All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                  Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                  Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                  That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                  So tell me exactly what you would do.

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                    L Offline
                    L Offline
                    Loki
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #17

                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                    And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                    How? Don’t pay and let the gas crisis explode. You would be lynched in a week and suffer the fate you want for the ransom folk.

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                    • L Loki

                      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                      @loki said in The ransom:

                      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                      All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                      Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                      Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                      That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                      So tell me exactly what you would do.

                      JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #18

                      @loki said in The ransom:

                      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                      @loki said in The ransom:

                      @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                      All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                      Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                      Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                      That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                      So tell me exactly what you would do.

                      What do you do with pirates?

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        Mik
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                        #19

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                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @loki said in The ransom:

                          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                          @loki said in The ransom:

                          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                          Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                          That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                          So tell me exactly what you would do.

                          What do you do with pirates?

                          L Offline
                          L Offline
                          Loki
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          @jolly said in The ransom:

                          @loki said in The ransom:

                          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                          @loki said in The ransom:

                          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                          Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                          That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                          So tell me exactly what you would do.

                          What do you do with pirates?

                          I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

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                          • MikM Offline
                            MikM Offline
                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #21

                            The right thing to do is harden our systems and increase our ability to track hackers.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • L Loki

                              @jolly said in The ransom:

                              @loki said in The ransom:

                              @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                              @loki said in The ransom:

                              @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                              All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                              Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                              Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                              That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                              So tell me exactly what you would do.

                              What do you do with pirates?

                              I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

                              JollyJ Offline
                              JollyJ Offline
                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              @loki said in The ransom:

                              @jolly said in The ransom:

                              @loki said in The ransom:

                              @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                              @loki said in The ransom:

                              @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                              All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                              Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                              Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                              That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                              So tell me exactly what you would do.

                              What do you do with pirates?

                              I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

                              Oh, I think they had to be paid. But, as Aqua said, pay them in a way you can possibly trace the money.

                              I'm not convinced these guys approach this stuff with a jihadist's fervor. I think if you stack
                              enough bodies, you can get their attention. It quits being fun when a drone sticks a Hellfire up your car's tailpipe and you make the evening news.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins DadL Offline
                                LuFins Dad
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #23

                                You guys did see the parts where they still had to bring up backup servers anyway because the solution they were sent worked for shit? They bought a day at most.

                                The Brad

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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  Mik
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #24

                                  Stolen from George K:

                                  A pirate walks into a bar with a paper towel on his head. The bartender asks, "Hey, what's with the paper towel?"

                                  The pirate says, "Argh, I've got a Bounty on me head!"

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins DadL Offline
                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #25

                                    "On Thursday, Colonial Pipeline announced that its systems were back up and running — with very little thanks, it would seem, to that payment of 75 bitcoin."

                                    https://mashable.com/article/colonial-pipeline-paid-bitcoin-ransomware/

                                    They had the backups. They paid within hours and the decryptor sucked. How many days or hours did they waste with that? Could the system have been working on Wednesday or even Tuesday if they had just gone straight to work restoring the backups? Who knows? But paying the ransom did absolutely nothing except promote more attacks.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • JollyJ Offline
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                                      Jolly
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      Do I smell fear?

                                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/05/14/the-ransomware-group-behind-the-colonial-pipeline-hack-says-it-is-disbanding/?sh=27a8a5ba7775

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • HoraceH Offline
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #27

                                        sort of like the mob shooting a cop back in the day.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Rainman
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #28

                                          How is it NOT possible to catch the hackers, or at least the one person that accesses the money?
                                          Is the answer in the article I didn't read?

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