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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #10

    Not only that, but they apologized, saying they only wanted money, not to disrupt our energy picture. I suppose it is possible they did not know the impact of what they did, but I doubt it.

    Kill them all.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • L Offline
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      Loki
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      #11

      I wonder if for $10 million they would have gotten a faster decryptor?

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      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        LuFins Dad
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        #12

        All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

        Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

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          L Offline
          Loki
          wrote on last edited by
          #13

          @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

          All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

          Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

          Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

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          • L Loki

            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins DadL Offline
            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #14

            @loki said in The ransom:

            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

            That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL Offline
              LuFins DadL Offline
              LuFins Dad
              wrote on last edited by
              #15

              And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

              The Brad

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              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                @loki said in The ransom:

                @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                L Offline
                L Offline
                Loki
                wrote on last edited by
                #16

                @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                @loki said in The ransom:

                @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                So tell me exactly what you would do.

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                  L Offline
                  L Offline
                  Loki
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #17

                  @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                  And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...

                  How? Don’t pay and let the gas crisis explode. You would be lynched in a week and suffer the fate you want for the ransom folk.

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                  • L Loki

                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                    @loki said in The ransom:

                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                    All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                    Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                    Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                    That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                    So tell me exactly what you would do.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #18

                    @loki said in The ransom:

                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                    @loki said in The ransom:

                    @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                    All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                    Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                    Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                    That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                    So tell me exactly what you would do.

                    What do you do with pirates?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • MikM Offline
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                      Mik
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                      #19

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                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @loki said in The ransom:

                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                        @loki said in The ransom:

                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                        All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                        Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                        Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                        That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                        So tell me exactly what you would do.

                        What do you do with pirates?

                        L Offline
                        L Offline
                        Loki
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #20

                        @jolly said in The ransom:

                        @loki said in The ransom:

                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                        @loki said in The ransom:

                        @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                        All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                        Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                        Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                        That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                        So tell me exactly what you would do.

                        What do you do with pirates?

                        I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

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                        • MikM Offline
                          MikM Offline
                          Mik
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #21

                          The right thing to do is harden our systems and increase our ability to track hackers.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • L Loki

                            @jolly said in The ransom:

                            @loki said in The ransom:

                            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                            @loki said in The ransom:

                            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                            That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                            So tell me exactly what you would do.

                            What do you do with pirates?

                            I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

                            JollyJ Offline
                            JollyJ Offline
                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #22

                            @loki said in The ransom:

                            @jolly said in The ransom:

                            @loki said in The ransom:

                            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                            @loki said in The ransom:

                            @lufins-dad said in The ransom:

                            All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.

                            Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”

                            Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.

                            That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...

                            So tell me exactly what you would do.

                            What do you do with pirates?

                            I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.

                            Oh, I think they had to be paid. But, as Aqua said, pay them in a way you can possibly trace the money.

                            I'm not convinced these guys approach this stuff with a jihadist's fervor. I think if you stack
                            enough bodies, you can get their attention. It quits being fun when a drone sticks a Hellfire up your car's tailpipe and you make the evening news.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #23

                              You guys did see the parts where they still had to bring up backup servers anyway because the solution they were sent worked for shit? They bought a day at most.

                              The Brad

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #24

                                Stolen from George K:

                                A pirate walks into a bar with a paper towel on his head. The bartender asks, "Hey, what's with the paper towel?"

                                The pirate says, "Argh, I've got a Bounty on me head!"

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #25

                                  "On Thursday, Colonial Pipeline announced that its systems were back up and running — with very little thanks, it would seem, to that payment of 75 bitcoin."

                                  https://mashable.com/article/colonial-pipeline-paid-bitcoin-ransomware/

                                  They had the backups. They paid within hours and the decryptor sucked. How many days or hours did they waste with that? Could the system have been working on Wednesday or even Tuesday if they had just gone straight to work restoring the backups? Who knows? But paying the ransom did absolutely nothing except promote more attacks.

                                  The Brad

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Jolly
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    Do I smell fear?

                                    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2021/05/14/the-ransomware-group-behind-the-colonial-pipeline-hack-says-it-is-disbanding/?sh=27a8a5ba7775

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    • HoraceH Offline
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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #27

                                      sort of like the mob shooting a cop back in the day.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        Rainman
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #28

                                        How is it NOT possible to catch the hackers, or at least the one person that accesses the money?
                                        Is the answer in the article I didn't read?

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #29

                                          https://www.barrons.com/news/servers-of-colonial-pipeline-hacker-darkside-forced-down-security-firm-01621002013

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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