The ransom
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@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
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And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
And for the US, this is a whole new escalation of this type of piracy. It needs to be stomped now...
How? Don’t pay and let the gas crisis explode. You would be lynched in a week and suffer the fate you want for the ransom folk.
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@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
What do you do with pirates?
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@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
What do you do with pirates?
@jolly said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
What do you do with pirates?
I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.
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@jolly said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
What do you do with pirates?
I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.
@loki said in The ransom:
@jolly said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
@loki said in The ransom:
@lufins-dad said in The ransom:
All they’ve done is set themselves up for future attacks and painted a target on other infrastructure based companies.
Right now some dude on a computer is saying “if they got $5,000,000 for the oil pipeline, how much canI get for taking down Dominion Power?”
Pirates have existed since the beginning of time.
That’s bullshit reasoning...Cancer has existed from the beginning of time, too. May as well accept it and stop trying to prevent it and cure it...
So tell me exactly what you would do.
What do you do with pirates?
I get the emotion here and feel it myself but I don’t see any practical solutions, just suggesting we did it wrong. What would you do? If it is not pay and keep the pipeline shut I don’t need to hear that because I already know what that would look like.
Oh, I think they had to be paid. But, as Aqua said, pay them in a way you can possibly trace the money.
I'm not convinced these guys approach this stuff with a jihadist's fervor. I think if you stack
enough bodies, you can get their attention. It quits being fun when a drone sticks a Hellfire up your car's tailpipe and you make the evening news. -
You guys did see the parts where they still had to bring up backup servers anyway because the solution they were sent worked for shit? They bought a day at most.
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"On Thursday, Colonial Pipeline announced that its systems were back up and running — with very little thanks, it would seem, to that payment of 75 bitcoin."
https://mashable.com/article/colonial-pipeline-paid-bitcoin-ransomware/
They had the backups. They paid within hours and the decryptor sucked. How many days or hours did they waste with that? Could the system have been working on Wednesday or even Tuesday if they had just gone straight to work restoring the backups? Who knows? But paying the ransom did absolutely nothing except promote more attacks.
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@mik that headline was horrible...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/05/25/colonial-hack-pipeline-dhs-cybersecurity/
DHS to issue first-ever cybersecurity regulations for pipelines after Colonial hack
Two directives will seek oversight of the industry after a ransomware attack upended gas availability in the southeast U.S. for 11 days -
