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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #101

    I thought Trump had faded away?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      I thought Trump had faded away?

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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #102

      @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

      I thought Trump had faded away?

      Except in the faithful who are afraid of him.

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
        wrote on last edited by
        #103

        You really don't get it, do you?

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          Axtremus
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          #104

          https://apnews.com/article/politics-michael-pence-donald-trump-government-and-politics-51336a639f7778b79801718837bce095

          Former GOP Speaker of the House Paul Ryan urges the GOP to reject Trump and his second-rate imitators.

          Emerging from two years of relative silence, former House Speaker Paul Ryan has joined the fight against Donald Trump, urging fellow conservatives to reject the former president’s divisive politics and those Republican leaders who emulate him.
          .
          Ryan made his remarks during a Thursday evening address at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California. He was critical of both Republicans and Democrats, though he saved his sharpest barbs for Trump, who is by most measures the leader of the modern-day Republican Party.
          .
          “It was horrifying to see a presidency come to such a dishonorable and disgraceful end,” Ryan said, referring to the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol that Trump inspired on Jan. 6.
          .
          “Once again, we conservatives find ourselves at a crossroads,” Ryan continued. “And here’s the reality that we have to face: If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality, or on second-rate imitations, then we’re not going anywhere. Voters looking for Republican leaders want to see independence and mettle. They will not be impressed by the sight of yes-men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago.”

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #105

            Good for you!

            I suspect Ryan is more beloved by the Demonrats, than he is by the GOP.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Good for you!

              I suspect Ryan is more beloved by the Demonrats, than he is by the GOP.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #106

              @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              I suspect Ryan is more beloved by the Demonrats, than he is by the GOP.

              The one thing that cults have in common is that they really hate the people who leave.

              I was only joking

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              • JollyJ Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #107

                No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #108

                  Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #109

                    @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                    No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

                    All I really remember him for at this point is his failed VP bid with Romney, another guy the Beliebers now despise.

                    I was only joking

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #110

                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

                      That crying sucker?

                      Yes, he sucketh deeply. Still does.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        taiwan_girl
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #111

                        Regardless of anything else you have said or done

                        You like President Trump = Good Republic
                        You dont like President Trump = Bad Republic

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                          Axtremus
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                          #112

                          https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                          The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                            The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #113

                            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                            The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                            Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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                              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                              The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                              Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #114

                              @copper said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                              The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                              Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

                              That's not a fair question. Lefties think black people can't vote due to GOP suppression, but lefties don't know any black people, so can't name them.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                Axtremus
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                                #115

                                https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                                The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                                https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                                Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                                  The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                                  Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

                                  CopperC Offline
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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #116

                                  @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                                  The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                                  Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

                                  Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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                                    Axtremus
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #117

                                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                                    Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                                    Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                                    Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      #118

                                      Trump’s 2021 June 5 speech in North Carolina Republican Party State Convention:

                                      Link to video

                                      Even Fox News refused to air that speech.

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                                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                                        Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                                        Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                                        Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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                                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                                        Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                                        Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                                        Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

                                        We live in a divided country where a progressive agenda has low odds to be successful. Cleaving the GOP would be the best strategy to run the table…doesn’t look like it will happen.

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                                          Axtremus
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                                          https://morningconsult.com/2021/06/09/trump-reinstated-democracy-polling/

                                          “29% of GOP Voters Say It’s Likely Trump Will Be Reinstated as President This Year”

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