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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/lindsey-graham-donald-trump/2021/02/20/178afc0a-72ca-11eb-a4eb-44012a612cf9_story.html

    Lindsey Graham said ‘Count me out’ after the Capitol riot. But he’s all in with Trump again.

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      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/20/trump-speak-cpac/

      ... Donald Trump will speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Florida next week, his first major public appearance since leaving office, a Trump aide said Saturday.

      The topic of Trump’s remarks will be “the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement,” ...

      🍿 🍿

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      • X xenon

        Not a surprise - but I think Trump gets way too much cover by Republicans.

        I get the opinion that he was much better than Hillary on policy in 2016. I also get that he makes people feel good with his culture war rhetoric (put liberals in their place a bit).

        But on policy and achievements he was vanilla. A Paul Ryan styled tax cut, criminal justice reform, curbing some regulation growth (still net adder to federal regulations)... that's about it.

        But he gets so much forgiven in terms of his buffoonery.

        Is there really on one better for the Republican party?

        Seriously - woudn't anyone here rather have the 2016 runner ups as President over Trump? (Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, etc.)

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        #43

        @xenon said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

        Seriously - woudn't anyone here rather have the 2016 runner ups as President over Trump? (Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, etc.)

        Trump was getting all the disdain during the primaries, but when it came time, he won every competition against those guys. Pretty impressive for a total loser.

        It's no wonder he was the lefties' worst nightmare, they were secretly hoping he would win the primaries, then the dog caught the car, and the car alarm went off in their heads for the next four years.

        Education is extremely important.

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          https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/21/exclusive-trump-party-he-still-holds-loyalty-gop-voters/6765406002/
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          By double digits, 46%-27%, those surveyed say they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. The rest are undecided.
          ...
          Half of those polled say the GOP should become "more loyal to Trump," even at the cost of losing support among establishment Republicans. One in five, 19%, say the party should become less loyal to Trump and more aligned with establishment Republicans.

          The survey of 1,000 Trump voters, identified from 2020 polls, was taken by landline and cellphone last Monday through Friday. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
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            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/21/exclusive-trump-party-he-still-holds-loyalty-gop-voters/6765406002/
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            By double digits, 46%-27%, those surveyed say they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. The rest are undecided.
            ...
            Half of those polled say the GOP should become "more loyal to Trump," even at the cost of losing support among establishment Republicans. One in five, 19%, say the party should become less loyal to Trump and more aligned with establishment Republicans.

            The survey of 1,000 Trump voters, identified from 2020 polls, was taken by landline and cellphone last Monday through Friday. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
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            @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

            https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/21/exclusive-trump-party-he-still-holds-loyalty-gop-voters/6765406002/
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            By double digits, 46%-27%, those surveyed say they would abandon the GOP and join the Trump party if the former president decided to create one. The rest are undecided.
            ...
            Half of those polled say the GOP should become "more loyal to Trump," even at the cost of losing support among establishment Republicans. One in five, 19%, say the party should become less loyal to Trump and more aligned with establishment Republicans.

            The survey of 1,000 Trump voters, identified from 2020 polls, was taken by landline and cellphone last Monday through Friday. The margin of error is plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.
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            Hey the Bull Moose party probably got Woodrow Wilson elected. Could be super good for democrats.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/20/trump-speak-cpac/

              ... Donald Trump will speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Florida next week, his first major public appearance since leaving office, a Trump aide said Saturday.

              The topic of Trump’s remarks will be “the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement,” ...

              🍿 🍿

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              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

              The topic of Trump’s remarks will be “the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement,” ...

              Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:

              lost the President office
              lost the House office
              lost the Senate office,
              decreased the number of Republic state governors
              decreased the number of majority Republic state legislatures

              I am guessing that the speech will focus that policies and idolism of the last four years needs to change.

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                Trump CPAC speech (skip ahead to the 57 min. mark to get to the start of Teump’s speech):

                Link to video

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                  #48

                  To spare you the suspense, yes, in his CPAC speech Trump repeated the various claims about the 2020 election being fraudulent.

                  Trump says he is starting a new party.

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-politics-conservatives/trump-repeats-election-lie-declares-himself-future-of-the-republican-party-idUSKCN2AS0J5

                  Trump declared the Republican Party is united and said he had no plans to try to launch a third party, an idea he has discussed with advisers in the last couple of months.

                  “We’re not starting new parties. We have the Republican Party. It’s going to be united and be stronger than ever before. I am not starting a new party,” he said.

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                    https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/03/06/scoop-trump-sends-legal-notice-to-gop-to-stop-using-his-name-492021

                    Lawyers for former President DONALD TRUMP sent out cease-and-desist letters Friday to the three largest fundraising entities for the Republican Party — the RNC, NRCC and NRSC — for using his name and likeness on fundraising emails and merchandise ...
                    .
                    None of the committees returned a request for comment. But privately GOP campaign types say it’s impossible not to use Trump’s name, as his policies are so popular with the base. If Trump really wants to help flip Congress, they argue he should be more generous. His team, however, sees this differently.
                    .
                    “President Trump remains committed to the Republican Party and electing America First conservatives, but that doesn’t give anyone - friend or foe - permission to use his likeness without explicit approval,” said a Trump adviser.

                    Maybe Trump wants a cut from whatever fund raising haul that uses his name or likeness?

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/03/06/scoop-trump-sends-legal-notice-to-gop-to-stop-using-his-name-492021

                      Lawyers for former President DONALD TRUMP sent out cease-and-desist letters Friday to the three largest fundraising entities for the Republican Party — the RNC, NRCC and NRSC — for using his name and likeness on fundraising emails and merchandise ...
                      .
                      None of the committees returned a request for comment. But privately GOP campaign types say it’s impossible not to use Trump’s name, as his policies are so popular with the base. If Trump really wants to help flip Congress, they argue he should be more generous. His team, however, sees this differently.
                      .
                      “President Trump remains committed to the Republican Party and electing America First conservatives, but that doesn’t give anyone - friend or foe - permission to use his likeness without explicit approval,” said a Trump adviser.

                      Maybe Trump wants a cut from whatever fund raising haul that uses his name or likeness?

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                      @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      https://www.politico.com/newsletters/playbook/2021/03/06/scoop-trump-sends-legal-notice-to-gop-to-stop-using-his-name-492021

                      Lawyers for former President DONALD TRUMP sent out cease-and-desist letters Friday to the three largest fundraising entities for the Republican Party — the RNC, NRCC and NRSC — for using his name and likeness on fundraising emails and merchandise ...
                      .
                      None of the committees returned a request for comment. But privately GOP campaign types say it’s impossible not to use Trump’s name, as his policies are so popular with the base. If Trump really wants to help flip Congress, they argue he should be more generous. His team, however, sees this differently.
                      .
                      “President Trump remains committed to the Republican Party and electing America First conservatives, but that doesn’t give anyone - friend or foe - permission to use his likeness without explicit approval,” said a Trump adviser.

                      Maybe Trump wants a cut from whatever fund raising haul that uses his name or likeness?

                      No, Trump is not only a former President, he is a celebrity. As such, I think he does own the rights to his image in any advertising media.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        I wonder if President Lincoln ancestors should sue the US government because they are using him on a penny! LOL

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                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          The topic of Trump’s remarks will be “the future of the Republican Party and the conservative movement,” ...

                          Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:

                          lost the President office
                          lost the House office
                          lost the Senate office,
                          decreased the number of Republic state governors
                          decreased the number of majority Republic state legislatures

                          I am guessing that the speech will focus that policies and idolism of the last four years needs to change.

                          jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                          Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:
                          lost the President office
                          lost the House office
                          lost the Senate office,
                          decreased the number of Republic state governors
                          decreased the number of majority Republic state legislatures

                          I wonder if the DNC is tired of winning.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:
                            lost the President office
                            lost the House office
                            lost the Senate office,
                            decreased the number of Republic state governors
                            decreased the number of majority Republic state legislatures

                            I wonder if the DNC is tired of winning.

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                            @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            @taiwan_girl said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                            Well, considering that in the last 4 years, the Republic Party has:
                            lost the President office
                            lost the House office
                            lost the Senate office,
                            decreased the number of Republic state governors
                            decreased the number of majority Republic state legislatures

                            I wonder if the DNC is tired of winning.

                            Substitute Obama and it is identical to a tee.

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                              Nope. He won re-election handily.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                https://www.vox.com/22321215/trump-rnc-cease-and-desist-fundraising-feud-purge

                                Cease-and-desist letters aside, Trump also issued a public statement telling people not to donate to the GOP, but to donate to Trump’s PAC instead.

                                Still, the GOP continues to leverage Trump’s name and likeness to raise funds.

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                                  How Ohio’s GOP primary candidates for an open Senate seat compete for Trump’s endorsement:

                                  h/t wtg:

                                  It was a scene right out of "The Apprentice."
                                  .
                                  Donald Trump was headlining a fundraiser on Wednesday night at his golf club in West Palm Beach, Fla. But before the dinner began, the former president had some business to take care of: He summoned four Republican Senate candidates vying for Ohio’s open Senate seat for a backroom meeting.
                                  .
                                  The contenders — former state Treasurer Josh Mandel, former state GOP Chair Jane Timken, technology company executive Bernie Moreno and investment banker Mike Gibbons — had flown down to attend the fundraiser to benefit a Trump-endorsed Ohio candidate looking to oust one of the 10 House Republicans who backed his impeachment. As the candidates mingled during a pre-dinner cocktail reception, one of the president's aides signaled to them that Trump wanted to huddle with them in a room just off the lobby.
                                  .
                                  What ensued was a 15-minute backroom backbiting session reminiscent of Trump’s reality TV show. Mandel said he was “crushing” Timken in polling. Timken touted her support on the ground thanks to her time as state party chair. Gibbons mentioned how he’d helped Trump’s campaign financially. Moreno noted that his daughter had worked on Trump’s 2020 campaign.
                                  .
                                  The scene illustrated what has become a central dynamic in the nascent 2022 race. In virtually every Republican primary, candidates are jockeying, auditioning and fighting for the former president’s backing. Trump has received overtures from a multitude of candidates desperate for his endorsement, something that top Republicans say gives him all-encompassing power to make-or-break the outcome of primaries.
                                  .
                                  And the former president, as was so often the case during his presidency, has seemed to relish pitting people against one another.

                                  https://www.politico.com/news/2021/03/25/trump-ohio-candidates-478059

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                                    https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-capitol-siege-politics-florida-abcfc4015aad9629568272cccdca3982

                                    GOP brings leaders, donors to [Trump’s] backyard

                                    “... the GOP is bringing hundreds of donors and several future presidential prospects to the former president’s doorstep in south Florida. While a handful of Republican leaders hope to move past Trump’s divisive leadership, the location of the invitation-only gathering suggests that the party, at least for now, is not ready to replace Trump as its undisputed leader and chief fundraiser.

                                    Trump himself will headline the closed-door donor retreat, which is designed to raise millions of dollars for the GOP’s political arm while giving donors exclusive access to the party’s evolving group of 2024 prospects and congressional leaders. The weekend event will play out in an oceanfront luxury hotel just four miles from Trump’s Florida estate, where allies of the former president will simultaneously be holding their own fundraising events.”

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                                      Trump slashes at McConnell as he reiterates election falsehoods at Republican event

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mcconnell-election/2021/04/11/297a82da-9879-11eb-962b-78c1d8228819_story.html

                                      ... Donald Trump called Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell a “dumb son of a bitch” as he used a Saturday night speech to Republicans to blame him for not helping overturn the 2020 election and reiterated false assertions that he won the November contest.


                                      Trump, speaking to a Republican National Committee gathering at his Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach, Fla., excoriated a number of Republicans even as he publicly called for party unity — focusing on those who voted to convict him in impeachment proceedings. But he saved his sharpest vitriol for the Kentucky Republican.

                                      ...
                                      Trump spent much of the speech, with many senators in the room, lashing into his former ally in personal terms, often to cheers from the party’s top donors. ...

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        Nope. He won re-election handily.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                        Nope. He won re-election handily.

                                        So did Trump.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Nope. He won re-election handily.

                                          So did Trump.

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                                          @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          @jon-nyc said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          Nope. He won re-election handily.

                                          So did Trump.

                                          Trump lost his reelection bid by a landslide.

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