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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #100

    This one is happening in @Mik’s backyard.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/24/jane-timken-trump-senate-490504
    — — — —
    During Jane Timken’s tenure as Ohio’s GOP chair, Donald Trump won the one-time bellwether state by a whopping 8 percentage points. She put 150,000 miles on her car driving to the state’s 88 counties as a surrogate for the president. And she raised a total of $5 million for his two campaigns.

    But that sterling record of MAGA support might not be enough to guarantee the former president’s support in her bid for the GOP Senate nomination. Timken’s sin? In her capacity as state party chair, she failed to immediately condemn home-state Republican congressman, Anthony Gonzalez, for voting to impeach Trump in response to the U.S. Capitol riot on Jan. 6.

    At the time, Timken said the congressman had a “rational reason why he voted that way. I think he’s an effective legislator, and he’s a very good person.”

    That statement is proving costly. In a Republican Party where a candidate’s viability is measured in degrees of fealty to the former president, the crowded field of primary opponents is insisting Timken has failed a key test.

    Days after entering the Senate race in February, Timken changed gears and called on Gonzalez to resign. But despite that — and despite calling both Trump impeachments a “sham” — Timken’s foes and two dozen conservative activists penned an open letter this weekend to the state Republican Party that called on primary voters to reject her candidacy.
    ...
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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
      wrote on last edited by
      #101

      I thought Trump had faded away?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        I thought Trump had faded away?

        taiwan_girlT Offline
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        taiwan_girl
        wrote on last edited by
        #102

        @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

        I thought Trump had faded away?

        Except in the faithful who are afraid of him.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #103

          You really don't get it, do you?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            Axtremus
            wrote on last edited by
            #104

            https://apnews.com/article/politics-michael-pence-donald-trump-government-and-politics-51336a639f7778b79801718837bce095

            Former GOP Speaker of the House Paul Ryan urges the GOP to reject Trump and his second-rate imitators.

            Emerging from two years of relative silence, former House Speaker Paul Ryan has joined the fight against Donald Trump, urging fellow conservatives to reject the former president’s divisive politics and those Republican leaders who emulate him.
            .
            Ryan made his remarks during a Thursday evening address at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in California. He was critical of both Republicans and Democrats, though he saved his sharpest barbs for Trump, who is by most measures the leader of the modern-day Republican Party.
            .
            “It was horrifying to see a presidency come to such a dishonorable and disgraceful end,” Ryan said, referring to the deadly attack on the U.S. Capitol that Trump inspired on Jan. 6.
            .
            “Once again, we conservatives find ourselves at a crossroads,” Ryan continued. “And here’s the reality that we have to face: If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality, or on second-rate imitations, then we’re not going anywhere. Voters looking for Republican leaders want to see independence and mettle. They will not be impressed by the sight of yes-men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago.”

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
              wrote on last edited by
              #105

              Good for you!

              I suspect Ryan is more beloved by the Demonrats, than he is by the GOP.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                Good for you!

                I suspect Ryan is more beloved by the Demonrats, than he is by the GOP.

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on last edited by
                #106

                @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                I suspect Ryan is more beloved by the Demonrats, than he is by the GOP.

                The one thing that cults have in common is that they really hate the people who leave.

                I was only joking

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #107

                  No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #108

                    Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      Doctor Phibes
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #109

                      @jolly said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                      No, Ryan did a truly crappy job as speaker and that is what he is truly remembered for.

                      All I really remember him for at this point is his failed VP bid with Romney, another guy the Beliebers now despise.

                      I was only joking

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                      • AxtremusA Axtremus

                        Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #110

                        @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                        Before Paul Ryan, there was another GOP Speaker of the House, John Boehner, who is also rather critical of Trump. @Jolly probably thinks that Boehner sucked, too.

                        That crying sucker?

                        Yes, he sucketh deeply. Still does.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                          taiwan_girl
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #111

                          Regardless of anything else you have said or done

                          You like President Trump = Good Republic
                          You dont like President Trump = Bad Republic

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                            Axtremus
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                            #112

                            https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                            The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                              The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                              CopperC Offline
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                              Copper
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #113

                              @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                              https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                              The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                              Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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                              • CopperC Copper

                                @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                                The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                                Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #114

                                @copper said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                https://newrepublic.com/article/162646/gop-mail-in-ballots-voter-suppression

                                The article explains how the GOP‘s drive to reduce voting-by-mail hurts Republicans more, and that the GOP is doing it just to appease Trump and Trump’s followers.

                                Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

                                That's not a fair question. Lefties think black people can't vote due to GOP suppression, but lefties don't know any black people, so can't name them.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • AxtremusA Offline
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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #115

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                                  The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                                  https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                                  Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

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                                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                    https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                                    The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                                    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                                    Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

                                    CopperC Offline
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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #116

                                    @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                    https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-has-become-even-greater-threat-democracy-than-trump-2021-6

                                    The GOP has proven to be an even 'greater threat' to US democracy than Trump in 2021

                                    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-democracy-danger-gop-voting-restrictions-over-100-scholars-warn-2021-6

                                    Republicans are putting America's democracy in mortal danger, more than 100 scholars warn

                                    Name one person who is unable to vote because of the GOP suppression.

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #117

                                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                                      Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                                      Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                                      Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        #118

                                        Trump’s 2021 June 5 speech in North Carolina Republican Party State Convention:

                                        Link to video

                                        Even Fox News refused to air that speech.

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                                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                                          Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                                          Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                                          Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

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                                          Loki
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #119

                                          @axtremus said in Whither the GOP post Trump 2020 election loss:

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumpinfluencegopcandidates/2021/06/05/c52292a6-c603-11eb-9a8d-f95d7724967c_story.html

                                          Article on GOP candidates struggle to escape Trump’s influence. Examples include George P. Bush (son of Jeb) who jettisoned the Bush brand to pursue Trump’s endorsement as he runs for the office of Attorney General in Texas; this despite Trump belittled his father and attacked his uncle.

                                          Pence, despite his deep connection to the traditional pre-Trump GOP, also won’t be able to draw on that legacy for any of his future ambitions after four years with Trump.

                                          Another case study of sort is Glenn Youngkin who is running for Virginia’s gubernatorial office. Youngkin ran a hardline conservative message and secured Trump’s endorsement, and now find that he cannot pivot to the center because his opponent will to let voter forget that Trump endorsed Youngkin.

                                          We live in a divided country where a progressive agenda has low odds to be successful. Cleaving the GOP would be the best strategy to run the table…doesn’t look like it will happen.

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