Pardonpalooza
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wrote on 16 Jan 2021, 02:09 last edited by jon-nyc
He swindled Trump’s most loyal base. But hey. He’s apparently Trump’s confidant again. Rudy exits stage left, and Bannon slips in.
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wrote on 18 Jan 2021, 19:24 last edited by
The news is reporting Trump has no plans to pardon himself nor his family.
We will know for sure by 12:00 EST on Wednesday
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wrote on 18 Jan 2021, 19:30 last edited by
I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”
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I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”
wrote on 18 Jan 2021, 19:35 last edited by@lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:
I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”
I seriously doubt that.
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@lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:
I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”
I seriously doubt that.
wrote on 18 Jan 2021, 20:33 last edited by Doctor Phibes@jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:
@lufins-dad said in Pardonpalooza:
I’m sure we can find video of him accidentally bumping into an aide and saying “Oh! Pardon me!”
I seriously doubt that.
Yeah, no kidding.
More like "I beg your pardon, I've dug up the Rose Garden!"
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wrote on 18 Jan 2021, 22:57 last edited by
If Mr. Biden ever wants a headline he should pardon Mr. Trump and ask him to go away.
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 15:50 last edited by
Go big AND go home.
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:02 last edited by
Good
I hope he sets a record with a huge number
He should include Joe and Hunter Biden
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:11 last edited by
What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?
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What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?
wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:21 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Pardonpalooza:
What do you call somebody who is surrounded by crooks, but is himself the most honest man you've ever met, just so, so honest, just amazingly honest?
Political candidate.
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:24 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:
Over 100 coming?
Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:27 last edited by
I have no idea. It's only the controversial ones that ever get reported.
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 17:29 last edited by Doctor Phibes
On the same website:
"Barack Obama averaged fewer executive orders per year in office than any U.S. president in 120 years.'
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/23/obama-executive-orders/
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@jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:
Over 100 coming?
Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?
wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 18:06 last edited by@loki said in Pardonpalooza:
@jon-nyc said in Pardonpalooza:
Over 100 coming?
Serious question. Is Trump going to end up with a relatively low number of pardons compared to other presidents?
Possibly. Trump apparently feels slighted by the entire nation. After all, it's everybody else's fault things got out of control. If everyone had just listened and followed his path.
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wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 18:29 last edited by
CNN: Trump's sordid pardons cement his corrupt legacy
"The Founding Fathers would have been disgusted by President Donald Trump's serial abuse of the pardon power. Nearly 90% of his pardons to date have gone to friends or politically connected allies -- including corrupt politicians. While the President's pardon power may seem unconstrained by the Constitution, a closer look shows that Trump is violating every principle the framers of the Constitution assumed would be followed by a principled President -- and there's evidence they intended special constraints on a President's pardon power after they'd been impeached."
Though this initial paragraph addresses the head, the rest of the article discusses the interesting debate amongst the Framers on Presidential pardons.
I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."
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CNN: Trump's sordid pardons cement his corrupt legacy
"The Founding Fathers would have been disgusted by President Donald Trump's serial abuse of the pardon power. Nearly 90% of his pardons to date have gone to friends or politically connected allies -- including corrupt politicians. While the President's pardon power may seem unconstrained by the Constitution, a closer look shows that Trump is violating every principle the framers of the Constitution assumed would be followed by a principled President -- and there's evidence they intended special constraints on a President's pardon power after they'd been impeached."
Though this initial paragraph addresses the head, the rest of the article discusses the interesting debate amongst the Framers on Presidential pardons.
I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."
wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 18:37 last edited by@catseye3 said in Pardonpalooza:
I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."
Lots of destruction of the republic going around. There will never be any end to drama queens masturbating and cumming over the corpses of their fallen political opponents.
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@catseye3 said in Pardonpalooza:
I.e., George Mason argued that the President "ought not to have the power of pardoning, because he may frequently pardon crimes which were advised by himself... If he has the power of granting pardons before indictment, or conviction, may he not stop inquiry and prevent detection?" Mason warned that this could "destroy the republic."
Lots of destruction of the republic going around. There will never be any end to drama queens masturbating and cumming over the corpses of their fallen political opponents.
wrote on 19 Jan 2021, 18:54 last edited by@horace said in Pardonpalooza:
Lots of destruction of the republic going around.
I didn't post Mason's argument to support any position of mine, but because I thought it was interesting in its own right.
I don't know enough about the prez pardon to have a position.
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