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    Axtremus
    wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:41 last edited by
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    It‘s concerning that many states have seen staedy decline of R0 for weeks, then their R0s rise again. You’d think that as more people become better aware of and better educated about COVID-19, that more people will observe social distancing and practice better hygiene and that should keep suppressing R0s.

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      Copper
      wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 01:56 last edited by
      #10

      What is the goal?

      How do you measure performance against it?

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      • C Copper
        20 Apr 2020, 01:56

        What is the goal?

        How do you measure performance against it?

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        Axtremus
        wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:01 last edited by
        #11

        @Copper said in rt.live:

        What is the goal?

        Ever decreasing R0 until it hits zero.

        How do you measure performance against it?

        You measure R0.

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        • C Copper
          20 Apr 2020, 01:56

          What is the goal?

          How do you measure performance against it?

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:10 last edited by
          #12

          @Copper said in rt.live:

          What is the goal?

          It's not what you think it is or want it to be.

          Please love yourself.

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          • A Axtremus
            20 Apr 2020, 02:01

            @Copper said in rt.live:

            What is the goal?

            Ever decreasing R0 until it hits zero.

            How do you measure performance against it?

            You measure R0.

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            Copper
            wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:11 last edited by
            #13

            @Axtremus said in rt.live:

            @Copper said in rt.live:

            What is the goal?

            Ever decreasing R0 until it hits zero.

            How do you measure performance against it?

            You measure R0.

            That seems to be a goal that could take somewhat longer than flatten the curve.

            Do you have any idea how long that might take? My guess is that it could takes years. I assume you would abandon the social separation and stay at home policies long before that.

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            • G George K
              19 Apr 2020, 22:33

              https://rt.live

              "These are up-to-date values for Rt, a key measure of how fast the virus is growing. It’s the average number of people who become infected by an infectious person. If Rt is above 1.0, the virus will spread quickly. When Rt is below 1.0, the virus will stop spreading."

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              Loki
              wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:18 last edited by
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              Of course there is volatility around the estimates by state but it has consistently trended down to about 1 in the US as whole. So what is the issue?

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              • A Aqua Letifer
                20 Apr 2020, 02:10

                @Copper said in rt.live:

                What is the goal?

                It's not what you think it is or want it to be.

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                Copper
                wrote on 20 Apr 2020, 02:35 last edited by
                #15

                @Aqua-Letifer said in rt.live:

                @Copper said in rt.live:

                What is the goal?

                It's not what you think it is or want it to be.

                What do I think it is?

                What do I want it to be?

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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 03:39 last edited by Axtremus
                  #16

                  If the various R0 values presented by https://rt.live/ are to be believed, it looks like most states have their R0 values trending the wrong way. 😞

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                  • A Axtremus
                    26 Apr 2020, 03:39

                    If the various R0 values presented by https://rt.live/ are to be believed, it looks like most states have their R0 values trending the wrong way. 😞

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                    George K
                    wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 10:59 last edited by
                    #17

                    @Axtremus said in rt.live:

                    If the various R0 values presented by https://rt.live/ are to be believed, it looks like most states have their R0 valies trending the wrong way. 😞

                    I saw that yesterday. It seems like a sudden change, too. Things were looking much more favorable a day or two ago.. I wonder what happened

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 18:15 last edited by
                      #18

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        Copper
                        wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 19:49 last edited by
                        #19

                        I built a Lunar Lander Game like that, written in 6502 assembler on the Commodore 64.

                        I uploaded it to the Q-Link game site. Q-Link aka Quantum Link. Steve Case became CEO of Quantum Link then it was renamed to AOL.

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 19:55 last edited by jon-nyc
                          #20

                          He rang the bell at the top of the dot-com era, selling AOL to the idiots at TW who didn’t realize its best days we’re behind it.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 20:02 last edited by
                            #21

                            Switching AOL from a proprietary network to the internet seems like such an obvious thing to do from our current time. I remember it as kind of a bold move back then.

                            Of course it helped lead to the end of AOL dominance, still it let the company die a slower death.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 26 Apr 2020, 20:06 last edited by jon-nyc
                              #22

                              It did, and I remember how big a deal it was for them at the time.

                              The clowns at TW didn’t have a mental model of how AOL fit with ‘the internet’ and they bought a dying property thinking they were investing in the future.

                              I remember people were pissed at Steve Case after it fell apart. But he was a genius. He sold high.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                89th
                                wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 10:13 last edited by
                                #23

                                Seems like RT.live made a big model update yesterday which has improved some numbers too.

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                                  27 Apr 2020, 10:13

                                  Seems like RT.live made a big model update yesterday which has improved some numbers too.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 21:36 last edited by
                                  #24

                                  @89th said in rt.live:

                                  Seems like RT.live made a big model update yesterday which has improved some numbers too.

                                  https://rt.live

                                  Screen-Shot-2020-04-27-at-4-36-33-PM.png

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on 27 Apr 2020, 21:58 last edited by
                                    #25

                                    Let's hope the new numbers are accurate - that would be great news.

                                    I was only joking

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                                      Axtremus
                                      wrote on 28 May 2020, 11:45 last edited by
                                      #26

                                      About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

                                      As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

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                                      • A Axtremus
                                        28 May 2020, 11:45

                                        About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

                                        As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

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                                        Loki
                                        wrote on 28 May 2020, 11:55 last edited by
                                        #27

                                        @Axtremus said in rt.live:

                                        About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

                                        As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

                                        Is the goal to keep the R value below 1? It’s going to spread as we open up. Do you want to keep the country in lockdown?

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                                        • A Axtremus
                                          28 May 2020, 11:45

                                          About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

                                          As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 28 May 2020, 11:56 last edited by
                                          #28

                                          @Axtremus said in rt.live:

                                          About a week~10 days ago, we got down to only two states having R values above 1.

                                          As of this morning, there are nine states with R values above 1.

                                          I've noticed that trend as well.

                                          Do you think it has anything to do with "re-opening," or is it a factor of having more positives because of testing?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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