Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Ah, yes it is?
However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.
Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:03 last edited by jon-nyc 1 May 2021, 15:05The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.
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The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:18 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.
It's not "large scale". He hugely underperformed in only 6 states, and only in the counties within those 6 states that are 1. Heavily democrat and 2. Have a history of election fraud.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:29 last edited by
That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.
But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.
But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.
It's not false.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:08 last edited by@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
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@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:12 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 May 2021, 16:12@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?
Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!
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@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:17 last edited by@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
That's how the wokesters know they're right as well.
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@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:23 last edited by@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:30 last edited byHe would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
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He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:33 last edited by@nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.
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@nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:55 last edited by@horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.
Not so much in the beginning,
but now I think we have all learned to worship him.
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He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:34 last edited by@nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
Dude, have another beer.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?
Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:36 last edited by Jolly 1 May 2021, 17:36@doctor-phibes said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?
Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!
You're confusing Trump voters, registered Republican voters and all registered voters. As I said, I haven't looked in awhile, but at one time it was a majority of voters, whether they voted for Trump, or not.
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@doctor-phibes Have you not been looking at the weather reports?
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 17:45 last edited by Renauda 1 May 2021, 20:18@mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@doctor-phibes Have you not been looking at the weather reports?
Actually it's been unseasonably mild where I live. A good winter not to travel.
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Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 00:14 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
Just because!! That is why.
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@rainman Actually it's a Trotskyist.
Once you have that down we can work on a what a Groucho Marxist might be.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 11:24 last edited by@renauda said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Once you have that down we can work on a what a Groucho Marxist might be.
Say the magic woid and win two hundred dollahs.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@larry said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
And I don't count never Trumper RINO s as "long standing conservatives".It doesn’t matter if you don’t consider them conservative, all that matters is that they vote split ticket.
Like I did, by the way.
I’ll bet a number of people here did.
Yup. There is nothing worse than people thinking that only one party is the solution to every problem there is in a country. That kind of “blind faith” will end badly.
“OMG, if only the (insert party name here) controlled everything, life would be so much better. We would all run through fields alongside unicorns and someone would throw rose petals on our heads.”
The best for the US is when things are split in the power. Maybe not as much gets done, but what does get done is more towards the center than any extreme.
wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 11:31 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
The best for the US is when things are split in the power. Maybe not as much gets done, but what does get done is more towards the center than any extreme.
I just love you to pieces, TG. Wiser words were never spoke here.
