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Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

    Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

    I don't get it.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on last edited by
    #148

    Not to mention Biden seemed headed for a solid win based on polling, whereas the Senate looked a lot more iffy.

    Somebody's going to organize a grand fraud and address only the former?

    Only non-witches get due process.

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      #149

      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

      Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

      I don't get it.

      It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.

      I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.

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      • LarryL Larry

        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

        Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

        I don't get it.

        It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.

        I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.

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        jon-nyc
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        #150

        @larry

        Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          @larry

          Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

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          #151

          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          @larry

          Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

          No it's not.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

            Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

            I don't get it.

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            #152

            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            I don't get it.

            Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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            • LarryL Larry

              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @larry

              Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

              No it's not.

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              jon-nyc
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              @larry

              Ah, yes it is?

              However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • 89th8 89th

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                I don't get it.

                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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                #154

                @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                I don't get it.

                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                You are a childish fool.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @larry

                  Ah, yes it is?

                  However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

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                  #155

                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                  @larry

                  Ah, yes it is?

                  However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                  Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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                  • LarryL Larry

                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                    @larry

                    Ah, yes it is?

                    However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

                    Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #156

                    @larry

                    The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @larry

                      The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      @larry

                      The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                      It's not "large scale". He hugely underperformed in only 6 states, and only in the counties within those 6 states that are 1. Heavily democrat and 2. Have a history of election fraud.

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                        That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.

                        But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nyc
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                          Here Larry.

                          https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/5097/philadelphia-and-environs?_=1609860388045

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.

                            But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.

                            It's not false.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              I don't get it.

                              Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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                              @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              I don't get it.

                              Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                              Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              • JollyJ Jolly

                                @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                I don't get it.

                                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

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                                Doctor Phibes
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                                @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                I don't get it.

                                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?

                                Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!

                                I was only joking

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  I don't get it.

                                  Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                  Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

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                                  @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  I don't get it.

                                  Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                  Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                  That's how the wokesters know they're right as well.

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    I don't get it.

                                    Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                    Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

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                                    89th
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                                    @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    I don't get it.

                                    Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                    Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                    Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.

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                                    • 89th8 89th

                                      @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      I don't get it.

                                      Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                      Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                      Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.

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                                      He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

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                                        He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

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                                        @nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

                                        Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          @nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                          He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

                                          Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.

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                                          @horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                          Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.

                                          Not so much in the beginning,

                                          but now I think we have all learned to worship him.

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