Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:30 last edited by
Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
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Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:31 last edited byNot to mention Biden seemed headed for a solid win based on polling, whereas the Senate looked a lot more iffy.
Somebody's going to organize a grand fraud and address only the former?
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:40 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.
I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
It's obvious you don't get it from the way you stated it. It's not that Trump underperformed down ballot. It's that Biden OVERPERFORMED down ballot.
I honestly worry that TDS is a lot more crippling than we first thought. You're so focused on seeing Trump lose that you have yet to even address the devastation that's coming to this cou try as a result of full democrat control. It's like you don't even care.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:51 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.
No it's not.
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Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?
Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?
I don't get it.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:56 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.
No it's not.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 14:58 last edited by@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
You are a childish fool.
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Ah, yes it is?
However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:00 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Ah, yes it is?
However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.
Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
Ah, yes it is?
However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.
Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:03 last edited by jon-nyc 1 May 2021, 15:05The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.
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The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:18 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.
It's not "large scale". He hugely underperformed in only 6 states, and only in the counties within those 6 states that are 1. Heavily democrat and 2. Have a history of election fraud.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:29 last edited by
That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.
But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:34 last edited by
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wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 15:41 last edited by
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.
But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.
It's not false.
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@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:08 last edited by@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
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@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:12 last edited by Doctor Phibes 1 May 2021, 16:12@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?
Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!
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@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:17 last edited by@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
That's how the wokesters know they're right as well.
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@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:23 last edited by@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.
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@jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
@jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
I don't get it.
Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.
Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.
Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:30 last edited byHe would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
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He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 16:33 last edited by@nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:
He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.
Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.
