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Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @larry

    Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

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    Larry
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    #151

    @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

    @larry

    Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

    No it's not.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Plus, how would 'Trump underperformed down ballot republicans' even conceivably be evidence of fraud?

      Like the fraudsters could figure out how to get ballots that were properly printed and coded, sneak them into hundreds of different polling locations, slip them into the counters without anyone noticing, cover all their tracks, etc.... but filling in those two extra bubbles for the House and Senate candidates was just too complicated?

      I don't get it.

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      #152

      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

      I don't get it.

      Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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      • LarryL Larry

        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

        @larry

        Doesn't matter how you frame it. The question is the same.

        No it's not.

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        #153

        @larry

        Ah, yes it is?

        However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • 89th8 89th

          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          I don't get it.

          Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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          #154

          @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

          I don't get it.

          Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

          You are a childish fool.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @larry

            Ah, yes it is?

            However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

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            #155

            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

            @larry

            Ah, yes it is?

            However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

            Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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            • LarryL Larry

              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

              @larry

              Ah, yes it is?

              However you want to frame it, if you've already organized fraud on a massive scale for the top race, the marginal amount of complexity to commit fraud on the congressional race is trivial.

              Ah, no it's not. There's a huge difference between "Trump underperformed" and "Biden overperformed".

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              jon-nyc
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              #156

              @larry

              The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @larry

                The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

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                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                @larry

                The point is there are a large number of technical hurdles one would have to overcome to commit fraud at a large scale in order to make Biden overperform. The additional hurdles required to make the Democratic senate candidates overperform are.... nonexistent. It would literally just be filling in an extra bubble or changing an addition number on a screen or whatever. All the hard part would already have been done.

                It's not "large scale". He hugely underperformed in only 6 states, and only in the counties within those 6 states that are 1. Heavily democrat and 2. Have a history of election fraud.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #158

                  That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.

                  But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    jon-nyc
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                    #159

                    Here Larry.

                    https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/5097/philadelphia-and-environs?_=1609860388045

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                      That’s also false. We’ve discussed that here too. Trump overperformed relative to 2016 in Philadelphia, for example. He lost ground in the suburbs.

                      But no matter how many districts it was, the point would still stand. I think that’s why you keep avoiding it.

                      It's not false.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                        I don't get it.

                        Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

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                        @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                        I don't get it.

                        Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                        Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                          I don't get it.

                          Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                          Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

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                          Doctor Phibes
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                          @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                          @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                          @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                          I don't get it.

                          Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                          Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                          Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?

                          Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!

                          I was only joking

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            I don't get it.

                            Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                            Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

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                            @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                            I don't get it.

                            Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                            Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                            That's how the wokesters know they're right as well.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              I don't get it.

                              Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                              Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

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                              89th
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                              @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                              I don't get it.

                              Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                              Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                              Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.

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                              • 89th8 89th

                                @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                I don't get it.

                                Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                Pure denial. Nearly every (or maybe every) single fraud claim has been debunked. There is no evidence other than "opinions!" of people like you and Larry, both of whom I respect, but your feelings of fraud and anomalous votes is just that...a feeling, likely rooted in a disbelief that Trump could lose to such a senile old man.

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                                He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

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                                  He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

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                                  @nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                  He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

                                  Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

                                    Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.

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                                    Copper
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                                    @horace said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                    Sort of like why Trump won in 2016. His opposition was not well liked. Didn't stop anybody of accusing those who voted for him of worshipping him.

                                    Not so much in the beginning,

                                    but now I think we have all learned to worship him.

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                                    • ? A Former User

                                      He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

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                                      @nobodyssock said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                      He would have lost to anyone thrown against him. Most voted to oust him, not for any love of current candidate. They have had enough of irrational and irratic leadership.

                                      Dude, have another beer.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        I don't get it.

                                        Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                        Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                        Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?

                                        Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!

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                                        Jolly
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                                        @doctor-phibes said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @jolly said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @89th said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        @jon-nyc said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                        I don't get it.

                                        Larry is living in an alternate reality, with his buddy Trump. PURE DENIAL that Trump lost.

                                        Trump lost a rigged election. I haven't looked at numbers lately, but at one time that was the opinion of the majority of voters.

                                        Hang on a minute, earlier it was 50 million, then it was 80 million, now it's a majority of voters?

                                        Did you just find an additional 30 million votes? Even Trump couldn't manage that, and that knobhead can do anything!

                                        You're confusing Trump voters, registered Republican voters and all registered voters. As I said, I haven't looked in awhile, but at one time it was a majority of voters, whether they voted for Trump, or not.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          @doctor-phibes Have you not been looking at the weather reports?

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                                          @mik said in Pence refused to sign on to Jan 6 plan to steal election:

                                          @doctor-phibes Have you not been looking at the weather reports?

                                          Actually it's been unseasonably mild where I live. A good winter not to travel.

                                          Elbows up!

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