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What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #31

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-check-democrats-try-2000-dollar-direct-payments/

    “House Democrats will bring forward a bill to provide direct checks of $2,000 to individuals on Thursday, after President Trump called on Congress to amend a newly passed coronavirus relief bill to increase direct payments to $2,000, with $4,000 for a couple. Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House will try to pass the bill by unanimous consent — meaning that only one Republican member opposing the proposal needs to be present in order to block the bill.”

    Let’s see which House Republican will block this.
    🍿 🍿

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      https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/

      House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
      ...
      “Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
      ...

      Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
      🍿 🍿

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      • 89th8 89th

        https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

        Great visual.

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        @89th said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

        https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

        Great visual.

        That’s awesome. Thanks.

        1.4 billion for the border wall. I guess it’s safe to build now.

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        • 89th8 89th

          https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

          Great visual.

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          @89th said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

          https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

          Great visual.

          Is it gone, or too small to read, or does this now appear:
          "Moderators remove posts from feeds for a variety of reasons, including keeping communities safe, civil, and true to their purpose."

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          • AxtremusA Axtremus

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/

            House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
            ...
            “Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
            ...

            Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
            🍿 🍿

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            Loki
            wrote on last edited by
            #35

            @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/

            House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
            ...
            “Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
            ...

            Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
            🍿 🍿

            No mystery here. He didn’t even use the word veto this time. I suppose he’s losing but just know he has no expectation of winning so if that’s a big loss to you enjoy it!

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              #36

              I must say he's making a complete clusterfuck of his legacy and his last days in office. Shame, really because all of the things that add up to that are unforced errors.

              Lashing out at the GOP and especially at Mike Pence, who has been as loyal as a VP could possibly be, is uncalled for.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                I must say he's making a complete clusterfuck of his legacy and his last days in office. Shame, really because all of the things that add up to that are unforced errors.

                Lashing out at the GOP and especially at Mike Pence, who has been as loyal as a VP could possibly be, is uncalled for.

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                @mik said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                I must say he's making a complete clusterfuck of his legacy and his last days in office. Shame, really because all of the things that add up to that are unforced errors.

                Lashing out at the GOP and especially at Mike Pence, who has been as loyal as a VP could possibly be, is uncalled for.

                Ehhh, he’s a dick. Has there ever been any question of that? But, he’s a dick that did some good things in office. Whether that was through his direct action or members of his team, we will never know, but you can’t deny the results. The really sad part is that a lot of the good things his administration accomplished couldn’t have happened if he wasn’t a dick...

                The Brad

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                  I think he needs to go back and read his tweets sometime. Or better yet, he should have never gotten a Twitter account.

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                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/12/24/house-stimulus-checks-trump/

                      House Republicans on Thursday blocked an effort by House Democrats to approve $2,000 stimulus payments for millions of Americans. Democrats were seeking to advance the measure after President Trump demanded it on Tuesday night, breaking with many of his fellow Republicans.
                      ...
                      “Today, on Christmas Eve morning, House Republicans cruelly deprived the American people of the $2,000 that the President agreed to support,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said in a statement. “If the President is serious about the $2,000 direct payments, he must call on House Republicans to end their obstruction.”
                      ...

                      Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
                      🍿 🍿

                      AxtremusA Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #40

                      @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                      Will Trump veto, will he fold without veto? Will the GOP join the override and let us see Trump lose again, or let the year end with a government shutdown and no economic stimulus?
                      🍿 🍿

                      https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/27/congress-stimulus-deal-450380

                      Trump folded and signed the bill, in time to avert a “government shutdown,” but not in time to prevent a lapse in extended unemployment benefit.

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                        "What is the Impoundment Control Act? Enacted in 1974 in response to President Nixon, Congress laid out very specific causes and processes for any future president to rescind, reserve, or defer authorized budgetary spending. In this case, President Trump is invoking 2 U.S.C §683 (which can be read here) in order to essentially line-item veto specific parts of the spending bill to increase the direct payments from $600 to $2000 per adult. President Trump, in his statement above, refers to this as “redlining” and will “submit a formal rescission request to Congress” in an attempt to pass the bill, and still get what he wants from it."

                        How is this different from a "line-item" veto, which has been ruled as unconstitutional?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          I don't know how much of this is the so-called "relief bill" and how much is in the rest of the 5000-plus pages of the bill:

                          https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1341117320572366854.html

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                          I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

                          Also if you scroll back 4 or 5 days ago I said Trump knew he lost this and would sign. Just more fake drama and fake popcorn eating and fake making Trump lose again, but me pointing out the obvious is probably getting tiresome by now.

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                            Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

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                              Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

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                              @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                              Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                              Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.

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                              • X xenon

                                Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

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                                @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                                He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

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                                  @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

                                  Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden. 😂😂😂😋

                                  (Just teasing you Horace)

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                                  • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                                    @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

                                    Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden. 😂😂😂😋

                                    (Just teasing you Horace)

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                                    @taiwan_girl said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.

                                    Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden. 😂😂😂😋

                                    (Just teasing you Horace)

                                    I'm at an all time high in terms of net worth. If people want to hold down white males, they're doing it wrong.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                                      Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.

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                                      @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                                      Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.

                                      Hey Ax! Did you get more mindreading batteries for Christmas?
                                      That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                        Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                                        He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                        @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                        Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                                        He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.

                                        The only real loss would be Georgia, the rest were easily predicted and baked into every objective analysis. He’s there on the 4th for a rally. I think you will have earned crowing rights if the Senate goes Democrat.

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                                        • RainmanR Rainman

                                          @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                          @xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                          Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?

                                          Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.

                                          Hey Ax! Did you get more mindreading batteries for Christmas?
                                          That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."

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                                          @rainman said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                          That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."

                                          Do you have a better explanation for why Trump line-item vetoed his admin’s own proposals?

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