What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"
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wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 15:46 last edited by
"What is the Impoundment Control Act? Enacted in 1974 in response to President Nixon, Congress laid out very specific causes and processes for any future president to rescind, reserve, or defer authorized budgetary spending. In this case, President Trump is invoking 2 U.S.C §683 (which can be read here) in order to essentially line-item veto specific parts of the spending bill to increase the direct payments from $600 to $2000 per adult. President Trump, in his statement above, refers to this as “redlining” and will “submit a formal rescission request to Congress” in an attempt to pass the bill, and still get what he wants from it."
How is this different from a "line-item" veto, which has been ruled as unconstitutional?
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I don't know how much of this is the so-called "relief bill" and how much is in the rest of the 5000-plus pages of the bill:
wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 15:52 last edited byI just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.
Also if you scroll back 4 or 5 days ago I said Trump knew he lost this and would sign. Just more fake drama and fake popcorn eating and fake making Trump lose again, but me pointing out the obvious is probably getting tiresome by now.
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wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 16:18 last edited by
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
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wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 17:42 last edited by
@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.
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wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 18:29 last edited by
@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.
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wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 19:18 last edited by
@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.
Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden.
(Just teasing you Horace)
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@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.
Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden.
(Just teasing you Horace)
wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 19:24 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
I just want to know if today’s 1% bounce goes to the Trump or Biden stock market increase ledger. LOL.
Accord to @Horace , this goes to President elect Biden.
(Just teasing you Horace)
I'm at an all time high in terms of net worth. If people want to hold down white males, they're doing it wrong.
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@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.
wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 20:38 last edited by@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.
Hey Ax! Did you get more mindreading batteries for Christmas?
That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus." -
@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.
wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 20:44 last edited by@jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
He’s on a 45 day losing streak, maybe he figures if he gets in a fight with himself he can’t lose.
The only real loss would be Georgia, the rest were easily predicted and baked into every objective analysis. He’s there on the 4th for a rally. I think you will have earned crowing rights if the Senate goes Democrat.
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@axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@xenon said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Why is he line item vetoing things from his own budget proposal?
Because he does not know what “he” proposed. Most likely “his people” proposed things he doesn’t know and doesn’t understand, now he line-items the same items his administration proposed, hoping his supporters are too low-information to notice that his administration has again slapped its own face.
Hey Ax! Did you get more mindreading batteries for Christmas?
That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."wrote on 28 Dec 2020, 21:41 last edited by@rainman said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
That's a powerful comment you got there, somewhere between "unbelievable" and "Jesus."
Do you have a better explanation for why Trump line-item vetoed his admin’s own proposals?
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wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:02 last edited by
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/07/business/dealbook/bailout-pensions-stimulus.html
“Just to show you how bad this bill is, there’s more money in this to bail out union pension funds than all the money combined for vaccine distribution and testing,” Senator Bill Hagerty, a Tennessee Republican, said last week.
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wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:04 last edited by Doctor Phibes 3 Sept 2021, 18:04
Assholes.
This is everything that's wrong with the US political system.
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wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:17 last edited by
And now we have nobody draining the swamp.
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Assholes.
This is everything that's wrong with the US political system.
wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:19 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Assholes.
Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Assholes.
Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).
wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:46 last edited by@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Assholes.
Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).
That’s wrong, of course.
A LOT of the people getting $1400 per check will never pay a penny in income tax and will continue to receive money back in earned income.
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wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:52 last edited by
UBI?
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@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Assholes.
Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).
wrote on 9 Mar 2021, 18:54 last edited by@george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
@doctor-phibes said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":
Assholes.
Somewhere I read that each person who gets $1400 ends up owing $5700 (by adding to the national debt).
Hypothetically, a non-US citizen who left the country when he or she retired wouldn't owe a brass farthing.
