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What's in the omnibus "relief bill?"

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    Axtremus
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    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

    "WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to not sign an $892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks."

    Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check. Not sure if he's serious or just throwing a temper tantrum for show. He has not use the word "veto."

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      Let's get that desperately needed $600 moving.

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        @jon-nyc said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

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        😂

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          I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

          BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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          • 89th8 89th

            I'm actually cool with Trump's threat to veto this. Not that I would suggest a flat cash check, but if you really wanted to spend $900 billion, you could give every household earning less than $75,000 a check for $15,000. Not $600 + business help, state, foreign, pork, pork, pork.

            BTW There are approximately 60 million households in the US (50% of households) earning less than $75k.

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            Loki
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            What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

            I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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            • L Loki

              What percent of the bill is non Covid related and how different is that than most of these kinds of bills?

              I can’t begin to know how to think about the bill without proper context.

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              89th
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              #17

              @loki This article has a good breakdown:

              https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/20/details-stimulus-package-omnibus-bill-449499

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                @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                ...

                Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                  https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-trump-idUSKBN28X01V

                  ...

                  Trump threatens not to sign the bill to hold out for bigger ($2000) stimulus check.

                  Trump urges Congress to amend 'wasteful' coronavirus aid bill
                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-55420366

                  The BBC reports more on Trump’s complains about the various “wasteful” aspects of the bill. Of course, Trump could have made all these complains, along with his stated desire to send bigger stimulus checks to individuals, back when Congress were busy negotiating the bill. Instead, Trump put his energy into stupid election lawsuits and conspiracy theories about election fraud.

                  Also of note is that Pelosi also supports sending bigger stimulus checks to individuals. The Democrats had many times passed much larger stimulus bills in the House before this one.

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                  I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                  • L Loki

                    I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

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                    @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                    I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                    The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                      https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                      Great visual.

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        https://www.reddit.com/r/dataisbeautiful/comments/kimkrk/a_breakdown_of_the_us_900b_covid_relief_bill_oc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

                        Great visual.

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                        George K
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                        @89th Thanks for finding that.

                        What does "education" entail?

                        At least we get a submarine!

                        Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                          The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                          @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                          I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                          The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                            @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                            I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                            The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

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                            @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                            @axtremus said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                            @loki said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                            I guess Trump has succeeded in getting democrats to defend the bill. LOL

                            The Democratic controlled House of Representatives passed the bill. Already they had to defend it just because of that.

                            And what about all of the pork in the spending bill? It was a 2-parter...

                            The Brad

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                              Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                Omnibus bills need to be done away with...If it can't stand on it's own merit then it shouldn't be tacked onto something unrelated...

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                                @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                  I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

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                                  @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  @lufins-dad said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                  Omnibus bills need to be done away with.

                                  I agree, however, I think this happened because the gummint was going to run out of money, so all the other carp got added. I think 89th's graphic is just for the virus stimulus.

                                  Ten Billion Dollars is a helluva lot for "Other" And an attack submarine?

                                  The Brad

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                    What does "education" entail?

                                    At least we get a submarine!

                                    Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 10.39.34 AM.png

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                                    Copper
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                                    @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                    @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                    What does "education" entail?

                                    Gender studies - $82B

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                                      @george-k said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      @89th Thanks for finding that.

                                      What does "education" entail?

                                      Gender studies - $82B

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                                      @copper said in What's in the omnibus "relief bill?":

                                      Gender studies - $82B

                                      Screen Shot 2020-12-23 at 1.37.47 PM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        xenon
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                                        All this foreign spend the Pres is complaining about was in his budget request.

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                                          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stimulus-check-democrats-try-2000-dollar-direct-payments/

                                          “House Democrats will bring forward a bill to provide direct checks of $2,000 to individuals on Thursday, after President Trump called on Congress to amend a newly passed coronavirus relief bill to increase direct payments to $2,000, with $4,000 for a couple. Speaker Nancy Pelosi said the House will try to pass the bill by unanimous consent — meaning that only one Republican member opposing the proposal needs to be present in order to block the bill.”

                                          Let’s see which House Republican will block this.
                                          🍿 🍿

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