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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:39 last edited by
    #161

    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
    -Cormac McCarthy

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      George K
      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:45 last edited by
      #162

      Wisconsin board of election says that all votes are counted, and Biden has won the state by ~ 20K votes.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:57 last edited by
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:58 last edited by jon-nyc 11 Apr 2020, 17:59
          #164

          Stepien is formally requesting a recount in WI.

          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
          -Cormac McCarthy

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 17:59 last edited by
            #165

            FWIW, even Trafalgar was predicting B+0.4 for Wisconsin.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Larry
              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:12 last edited by
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              We are witnessing the end of the US as a nation. When a man suffering from dementia who hasn't accomplished a single thing in 47 years as a politician, a man who sold our country out at every opportunity in order to line his own pockets has enough votes to win an election for president, then there is no hope for this nation. We will go the way of the Roman Empire.

              But I'm not really surprised. At my age I have watched as the idiot brigade in this country grew bigger and bigger, and I have watched our nation slowly turn it's back on every moral value we used to hold.

              I weep for this nation.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:15 last edited by
                #167

                Good luck in Wisconsin, Mr Stepien.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                  xenon
                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:18 last edited by xenon 11 Apr 2020, 18:19
                  #168

                  Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                  The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                  The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                  A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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                  • X xenon
                    4 Nov 2020, 18:18

                    Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                    The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                    The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                    A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:26 last edited by
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                    @xenon said in Calling the States:

                    Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                    The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                    The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                    A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

                    How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

                    The Brad

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                    • L LuFins Dad
                      4 Nov 2020, 18:26

                      @xenon said in Calling the States:

                      Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                      The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                      The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                      A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

                      How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

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                      xenon
                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:29 last edited by xenon 11 Apr 2020, 18:30
                      #170

                      @LuFins-Dad I think you're underappreciating how much the new media landscape has broken the dominance of traditional media. (and this will continue to be the trend)

                      It's the same thing that led to wokeness / mass protests without even a figurehead.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:32 last edited by
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                        Michigan:

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          A Former User
                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:34 last edited by
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                          Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                          NV - 6 Biden lead
                          AZ - 11 Biden lead
                          WI - 10 Biden lead
                          MI - 16 Biden lead

                          PA - 20 Trump lead
                          NC - 15 Trump lead
                          GA - 16 Trump lead

                          So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                          If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                          Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                          • ? A Former User
                            4 Nov 2020, 18:34

                            Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                            NV - 6 Biden lead
                            AZ - 11 Biden lead
                            WI - 10 Biden lead
                            MI - 16 Biden lead

                            PA - 20 Trump lead
                            NC - 15 Trump lead
                            GA - 16 Trump lead

                            So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                            If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                            Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:36 last edited by
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                            @nobodyssock said in Calling the States:

                            Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                            NV - 6 Biden lead
                            AZ - 11 Biden lead
                            WI - 10 Biden lead
                            MI - 16 Biden lead

                            PA - 20 Trump lead
                            NC - 15 Trump lead
                            GA - 16 Trump lead

                            So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                            If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                            Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

                            It’s over already except for the formalization

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                            • G George K
                              4 Nov 2020, 18:32

                              Michigan:

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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:37 last edited by
                              #174

                              @George-K said in Calling the States:

                              Michigan:

                              Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                              The Brad

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                              • L LuFins Dad
                                4 Nov 2020, 18:37

                                @George-K said in Calling the States:

                                Michigan:

                                Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

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                                George K
                                wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:37 last edited by
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                                @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                                Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                                Sorta like asking for a recount in Wisconsin.

                                However, I can see this making a difference in the Senate race in Michigan.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  LuFins Dad
                                  wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:40 last edited by
                                  #176

                                  I lost track, how is James doing?

                                  The Brad

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                                    4 Nov 2020, 18:40

                                    I lost track, how is James doing?

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:46 last edited by
                                    #177

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                                    I lost track, how is James doing?

                                    Leading by 10K (soon to be 15K) votes.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:50 last edited by
                                      #178

                                      I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

                                      The Brad

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                                        4 Nov 2020, 18:50

                                        I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:51 last edited by
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                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                                        I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

                                        More eyeballs, more clicks.

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                                          Klaus
                                          wrote on 4 Nov 2020, 18:54 last edited by
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                                          If I understand correctly, Biden would be at exactly 270 if everything goes as it is currently projected.

                                          However, only 67% are counted in Nevada right now, and it's pretty close. Is there a realistic chance that Nevada could turn around and give Trump the necessary votes?

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