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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #165

    FWIW, even Trafalgar was predicting B+0.4 for Wisconsin.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • LarryL Offline
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      Larry
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      #166

      We are witnessing the end of the US as a nation. When a man suffering from dementia who hasn't accomplished a single thing in 47 years as a politician, a man who sold our country out at every opportunity in order to line his own pockets has enough votes to win an election for president, then there is no hope for this nation. We will go the way of the Roman Empire.

      But I'm not really surprised. At my age I have watched as the idiot brigade in this country grew bigger and bigger, and I have watched our nation slowly turn it's back on every moral value we used to hold.

      I weep for this nation.

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        #167

        Good luck in Wisconsin, Mr Stepien.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          xenon
          wrote on last edited by xenon
          #168

          Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

          The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

          The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

          A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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          • X xenon

            Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

            The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

            The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

            A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #169

            @xenon said in Calling the States:

            Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

            The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

            The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

            A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

            How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              @xenon said in Calling the States:

              Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

              The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

              The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

              A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

              How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

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              #170

              @LuFins-Dad I think you're underappreciating how much the new media landscape has broken the dominance of traditional media. (and this will continue to be the trend)

              It's the same thing that led to wokeness / mass protests without even a figurehead.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #171

                Michigan:

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #172

                  Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                  NV - 6 Biden lead
                  AZ - 11 Biden lead
                  WI - 10 Biden lead
                  MI - 16 Biden lead

                  PA - 20 Trump lead
                  NC - 15 Trump lead
                  GA - 16 Trump lead

                  So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                  If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                  Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                  • ? A Former User

                    Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                    NV - 6 Biden lead
                    AZ - 11 Biden lead
                    WI - 10 Biden lead
                    MI - 16 Biden lead

                    PA - 20 Trump lead
                    NC - 15 Trump lead
                    GA - 16 Trump lead

                    So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                    If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                    Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                    Loki
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                    #173

                    @nobodyssock said in Calling the States:

                    Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                    NV - 6 Biden lead
                    AZ - 11 Biden lead
                    WI - 10 Biden lead
                    MI - 16 Biden lead

                    PA - 20 Trump lead
                    NC - 15 Trump lead
                    GA - 16 Trump lead

                    So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                    If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                    Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

                    It’s over already except for the formalization

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                    • George KG George K

                      Michigan:

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #174

                      @George-K said in Calling the States:

                      Michigan:

                      Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @George-K said in Calling the States:

                        Michigan:

                        Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

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                        George K
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                        #175

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                        Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                        Sorta like asking for a recount in Wisconsin.

                        However, I can see this making a difference in the Senate race in Michigan.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #176

                          I lost track, how is James doing?

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I lost track, how is James doing?

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                            #177

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                            I lost track, how is James doing?

                            Leading by 10K (soon to be 15K) votes.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            • LuFins DadL Offline
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                              LuFins Dad
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #178

                              I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

                              The Brad

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                              • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

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                                wrote on last edited by
                                #179

                                @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                                I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

                                More eyeballs, more clicks.

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                                  Klaus
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #180

                                  If I understand correctly, Biden would be at exactly 270 if everything goes as it is currently projected.

                                  However, only 67% are counted in Nevada right now, and it's pretty close. Is there a realistic chance that Nevada could turn around and give Trump the necessary votes?

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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #181

                                    It's possible, a little more so since Trump over-performed among Latinos.

                                    But that possibility doesn't seem to be animating the knowledgable election watchers. Even that GOP-leaning polling firm that called FL, MN, MI etc for Trump predicts a Biden win there.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #182

                                      There's still a decent chance Biden could pull ahead in PA.

                                      Almost by definition the counties that take the longest to count are the populous ones, where Biden has commanding leads.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

                                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #183

                                        The betting odds favor Biden in PA.

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                                        https://www.electionbettingodds.com

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #184

                                          Now we'll see which side planned ahead.

                                          Then we'll see how fast the other side can catch up.

                                          Will we get a concession speech before or after Thanksgiving?

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