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Calling the States

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  • bachophileB bachophile

    Pennsylvania aside, I would agree that the election and voting stops on Election Day.

    The counting stops when you finish counting. That’s something I assume all would agree with.

    As for Pa, strong believers in states rights should support that the state has the right to accept votes until nov 6 if it so decides. The state Supreme Court supported it. And that was upheld by SCOTUS including the opinion of the Chief Justice.

    Don’t see the problem

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    Jolly
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    #158

    @bachophile said in Calling the States:

    Pennsylvania aside, I would agree that the election and voting stops on Election Day.

    The counting stops when you finish counting. That’s something I assume all would agree with.

    As for Pa, strong believers in states rights should support that the state has the right to accept votes until nov 6 if it so decides. The state Supreme Court supported it. And that was upheld by SCOTUS including the opinion of the Chief Justice.

    Don’t see the problem

    This is a federal election, not a state election. I'm the most pro-state's rights person on this board. I'm also the person who has promoted the sanctity of the vote, more than any other.

    My position has been consistent for twenty years.

    1. Dems engage in election fraud, mostly in big cities, but sometimes on a statewide level. I was born and raised in a state that routinely had dead people vote. Often.

    To prevent any type of election fraud, you show up with ID in hand, sign your name and vote. This ain't rocket surgery. Exceptions can be made for military, embassy personnel and accomodations can be made for early and absentee voting, as long as it is done in person, with ID and signature.

    1. Mail-in votes should not be allowed. See point number one. But if they are allowed, the ballot must be marked appropriately, the signature must match, an audit trail must accompany the ballot and the envelope it was received in, and the mail-in ballot should be received by the end of election day, no matter where it was mailed from.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

      It’s kind of fun to watch Trump’s twitter feed now, as he oh-so-publicly navigates the stages of grief.

      Maybe the Supreme Court will find him guilty. Do you think he's considered that?

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      Jolly
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      #159

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Calling the States:

      @jon-nyc said in Calling the States:

      It’s kind of fun to watch Trump’s twitter feed now, as he oh-so-publicly navigates the stages of grief.

      Maybe the Supreme Court will find him guilty. Do you think he's considered that?

      Hope you have a weapon and ammunition for it.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        Doctor Phibes
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        #160

        So, this is how humour dies. Without rapturous applause. Or, let's face it, any kind of applause.

        I was only joking

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          jon-nyc
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          #161

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #162

            Wisconsin board of election says that all votes are counted, and Biden has won the state by ~ 20K votes.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              George K
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              #163

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              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                #164

                Stepien is formally requesting a recount in WI.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  FWIW, even Trafalgar was predicting B+0.4 for Wisconsin.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    We are witnessing the end of the US as a nation. When a man suffering from dementia who hasn't accomplished a single thing in 47 years as a politician, a man who sold our country out at every opportunity in order to line his own pockets has enough votes to win an election for president, then there is no hope for this nation. We will go the way of the Roman Empire.

                    But I'm not really surprised. At my age I have watched as the idiot brigade in this country grew bigger and bigger, and I have watched our nation slowly turn it's back on every moral value we used to hold.

                    I weep for this nation.

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                      #167

                      Good luck in Wisconsin, Mr Stepien.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        xenon
                        wrote on last edited by xenon
                        #168

                        Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                        The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                        The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                        A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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                        • X xenon

                          Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                          The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                          The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                          A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          @xenon said in Calling the States:

                          Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                          The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                          The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                          A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

                          How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            @xenon said in Calling the States:

                            Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

                            The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

                            The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

                            A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

                            How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

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                            xenon
                            wrote on last edited by xenon
                            #170

                            @LuFins-Dad I think you're underappreciating how much the new media landscape has broken the dominance of traditional media. (and this will continue to be the trend)

                            It's the same thing that led to wokeness / mass protests without even a figurehead.

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                              George K
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                              Michigan:

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                #172

                                Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                                NV - 6 Biden lead
                                AZ - 11 Biden lead
                                WI - 10 Biden lead
                                MI - 16 Biden lead

                                PA - 20 Trump lead
                                NC - 15 Trump lead
                                GA - 16 Trump lead

                                So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                                If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                                Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                                • ? A Former User

                                  Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                                  NV - 6 Biden lead
                                  AZ - 11 Biden lead
                                  WI - 10 Biden lead
                                  MI - 16 Biden lead

                                  PA - 20 Trump lead
                                  NC - 15 Trump lead
                                  GA - 16 Trump lead

                                  So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                                  If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                                  Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                                  Loki
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                                  #173

                                  @nobodyssock said in Calling the States:

                                  Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                                  NV - 6 Biden lead
                                  AZ - 11 Biden lead
                                  WI - 10 Biden lead
                                  MI - 16 Biden lead

                                  PA - 20 Trump lead
                                  NC - 15 Trump lead
                                  GA - 16 Trump lead

                                  So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                                  If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                                  Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

                                  It’s over already except for the formalization

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    Michigan:

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @George-K said in Calling the States:

                                    Michigan:

                                    Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @George-K said in Calling the States:

                                      Michigan:

                                      Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

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                                      George K
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                                      #175

                                      @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                                      Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                                      Sorta like asking for a recount in Wisconsin.

                                      However, I can see this making a difference in the Senate race in Michigan.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        LuFins Dad
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                                        #176

                                        I lost track, how is James doing?

                                        The Brad

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                                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                          I lost track, how is James doing?

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                                          @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                                          I lost track, how is James doing?

                                          Leading by 10K (soon to be 15K) votes.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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