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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #167

    Good luck in Wisconsin, Mr Stepien.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      xenon
      wrote on last edited by xenon
      #168

      Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

      The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

      The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

      A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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      • X xenon

        Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

        The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

        The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

        A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on last edited by
        #169

        @xenon said in Calling the States:

        Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

        The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

        The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

        A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

        How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

        The Brad

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @xenon said in Calling the States:

          Now that this is mostly over - it feels like Trump had a ton working in his favor.

          The economy has continued to move at a decent clip, he had winning positions (though not great policy) on immigration, getting tough on trade and even a cultural-pride message that resonates with many.

          The genius communicator side of him was able to clearly land those positions - but I think him being a moron/overly obnoxious just got the best of him.

          A vanilla republican with the same policy positions probably would have held on here.

          How does a vanilla Republican it’s the same policies get that message past the media? They don’t. This election was never about policies and was always about the evil Donald...

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          wrote on last edited by xenon
          #170

          @LuFins-Dad I think you're underappreciating how much the new media landscape has broken the dominance of traditional media. (and this will continue to be the trend)

          It's the same thing that led to wokeness / mass protests without even a figurehead.

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            #171

            Michigan:

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              #172

              Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

              NV - 6 Biden lead
              AZ - 11 Biden lead
              WI - 10 Biden lead
              MI - 16 Biden lead

              PA - 20 Trump lead
              NC - 15 Trump lead
              GA - 16 Trump lead

              So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

              If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

              Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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              • ? A Former User

                Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                NV - 6 Biden lead
                AZ - 11 Biden lead
                WI - 10 Biden lead
                MI - 16 Biden lead

                PA - 20 Trump lead
                NC - 15 Trump lead
                GA - 16 Trump lead

                So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

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                #173

                @nobodyssock said in Calling the States:

                Correct me if I'm wrong but looking at the maps there are 7 states that are still in doubt:

                NV - 6 Biden lead
                AZ - 11 Biden lead
                WI - 10 Biden lead
                MI - 16 Biden lead

                PA - 20 Trump lead
                NC - 15 Trump lead
                GA - 16 Trump lead

                So Biden has 227 votes to Trump's 213 at this moment.

                If leads are maintained in all of these undecided states, my math puts Biden right at 270 and Trump at 264.

                Yeah, this won't be sorted out for weeks.

                It’s over already except for the formalization

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                • George KG George K

                  Michigan:

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  #174

                  @George-K said in Calling the States:

                  Michigan:

                  Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                  The Brad

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                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                    @George-K said in Calling the States:

                    Michigan:

                    Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

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                    George K
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                    #175

                    @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                    Great! 9 more of those and he’ll catch back up!

                    Sorta like asking for a recount in Wisconsin.

                    However, I can see this making a difference in the Senate race in Michigan.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #176

                      I lost track, how is James doing?

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        I lost track, how is James doing?

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                        George K
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                        I lost track, how is James doing?

                        Leading by 10K (soon to be 15K) votes.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          LuFins Dad
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                          #178

                          I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

                          The Brad

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

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                            @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                            I am wondering why the media outlets aren’t calling Michigan yet?

                            More eyeballs, more clicks.

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                              Klaus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #180

                              If I understand correctly, Biden would be at exactly 270 if everything goes as it is currently projected.

                              However, only 67% are counted in Nevada right now, and it's pretty close. Is there a realistic chance that Nevada could turn around and give Trump the necessary votes?

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #181

                                It's possible, a little more so since Trump over-performed among Latinos.

                                But that possibility doesn't seem to be animating the knowledgable election watchers. Even that GOP-leaning polling firm that called FL, MN, MI etc for Trump predicts a Biden win there.

                                Only non-witches get due process.

                                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #182

                                  There's still a decent chance Biden could pull ahead in PA.

                                  Almost by definition the counties that take the longest to count are the populous ones, where Biden has commanding leads.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #183

                                    The betting odds favor Biden in PA.

                                    Screen Shot 2020-11-04 at 1.59.59 PM.png

                                    https://www.electionbettingodds.com

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #184

                                      Now we'll see which side planned ahead.

                                      Then we'll see how fast the other side can catch up.

                                      Will we get a concession speech before or after Thanksgiving?

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #185

                                        CNN called WI.

                                        A little anti-climactic since Stepien effectively called it 2 hrs ago.

                                        Screen Shot 2020-11-04 at 2.09.56 PM.png

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

                                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                        • X xenon

                                          @LuFins-Dad I think you're underappreciating how much the new media landscape has broken the dominance of traditional media. (and this will continue to be the trend)

                                          It's the same thing that led to wokeness / mass protests without even a figurehead.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #186

                                          @xenon said in Calling the States:

                                          @LuFins-Dad I think you're underappreciating how much the new media landscape has broken the dominance of traditional media. (and this will continue to be the trend)

                                          It's the same thing that led to wokeness / mass protests without even a figurehead.

                                          51% of Americans get their news online, 35% from tv, 9% from radio and 5% from print media. Many of those online are visiting sites such as NYT or CNN.

                                          If the vast majority of all types of media were biased against Trump (they were), how does this effect the vote? If Biden is elected, it is in large part due to media bias and Trump's personality. The media has helped elect a dementia patient as POTUS.

                                          But, there is a silver lining. A Biden presidency is going to be a disaster, if he follows through on his promises.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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