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ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis

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  • MikM Offline
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    Rittenhouse is not applicable here. He went down to protect his family’s business from a marauding mob. This guy went to oppose law enforcement he did not agree with. This is not to say I’m defending the ICE agents here, but the two situations could not be more different

    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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    • HoraceH Offline
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      #186

      looks like we're headed for a government shutdown over this stuff. I guess that serves somebody's purposes.

      Education is extremely important.

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        The question I ask myself is which party is trying to serve the interests of Americans and which trying to obtain power? While I don’t always approve the methods, I think the answer is obvious.

        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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          #188

          I agree it’s obvious. If it wasn’t obvious to you in November of 2020 it certainly became so over the next two months.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            Pretty good summary here.

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            @jon-nyc said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            Pretty good summary here.

            Fantastic summary. It boggles the mind, and dare I say I think the public and companies are starting to come around to the sheer lunacy to try and believe what the DHS is trying to say happened.

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            • MikM Mik

              Rittenhouse is not applicable here. He went down to protect his family’s business from a marauding mob. This guy went to oppose law enforcement he did not agree with. This is not to say I’m defending the ICE agents here, but the two situations could not be more different

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              @Mik said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              Rittenhouse is not applicable here. He went down to protect his family’s business from a marauding mob. This guy went to oppose law enforcement he did not agree with. This is not to say I’m defending the ICE agents here, but the two situations could not be more different

              Seems like the main difference is Rittenhouse’s exercise of his second amendment rights ultimately led to him killing someone whereas Pretti’s exercise of his second amendment rights led to him being killed by masked federal agents.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • MikM Mik

                Rittenhouse is not applicable here. He went down to protect his family’s business from a marauding mob. This guy went to oppose law enforcement he did not agree with. This is not to say I’m defending the ICE agents here, but the two situations could not be more different

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                @Mik said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                Rittenhouse is not applicable here. He went down to protect his family’s business from a marauding mob. This guy went to oppose law enforcement he did not agree with. This is not to say I’m defending the ICE agents here, but the two situations could not be more different

                I'm afraid that my ability to distinguish between 'law enforcement' and 'marauding mob' isn't what it once was.

                I was only joking

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                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    #193

                    Was the first shot by law officers into the disarmed man's back as he was getting up? Or have I got it wrong?
                    Here is the instant taken from the video...
                    Screenshot_20260125-071740_DuckDuckGo.jpg

                    P.S. If yes, I'd call it execution

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                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • A AndyD

                        Good grief 😔

                        Why did this man go armed to a peaceful protest?
                        Why did he not simply do as directed and get off the public road? Why not even after pepper sprayed by an officer?
                        Actively interfering with law officers' duties.
                        Why did he not simply comply with law officers instructions?

                        Why did he continue to resist arrest by multiple officers, even when restraining him on the ground?
                        Why did he(attempt to) stand up?

                        Why did the officers not give him an extra second to get back on the pavement?
                        I cannot hear, but why did so many officers suddenly rush to the spot.
                        Why when his gun was removed were the other officers not clearly informed?
                        Why did he attempt to stand(continue resisting), why was he shot in the back by an officer when attempting to stand?
                        Screenshot_20260125-071740_DuckDuckGo.jpg

                        Clearly not a defensive shot, the officer needs to go on trial.
                        The incompetence of the law officers beggers belief. To talk and de-escalate; and to restrain efficiently.
                        The stupidity of the man also.

                        So many questions, clearly neither public nor law officers have learnt much from the previous incident.

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                        @AndyD said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                        Good grief 😔

                        Why did this man go armed to a peaceful protest?
                        Why did he not simply do as directed and get off the public road? Why not even after pepper sprayed by an officer?
                        Actively interfering with law officers' duties.
                        Why did he not simply comply with law officers instructions?

                        Why did he continue to resist arrest by multiple officers, even when restraining him on the ground?
                        Why did he(attempt to) stand up?

                        Why did the officers not give him an extra second to get back on the pavement?
                        I cannot hear, but why did so many officers suddenly rush to the spot.
                        Why when his gun was removed were the other officers not clearly informed?
                        Why did he attempt to stand(continue resisting), why was he shot in the back by an officer when attempting to stand?
                        Screenshot_20260125-071740_DuckDuckGo.jpg

                        Clearly not a defensive shot, the officer needs to go on trial.
                        The incompetence of the law officers beggers belief. To talk and de-escalate; and to restrain efficiently.
                        The stupidity of the man also.

                        So many questions, clearly neither public nor law officers have learnt much from the previous incident.

                        Your thoughts mirror my own.

                        One thing going around (that I have not heard any confirmation of) is that his gun did accidentally discharge while the ICE agent had it in hand, and the other agents were not aware that he was disarmed. They knew he had a weapon, heard the gun go off, and responded.

                        The Brad

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