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Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    Best comment on the above:

    ‘When your dealer says you have a drug problem’

    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      The ‘op’.

      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        Wishing it will all go away before the primary in 2027. I’m not so confident it will.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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          Megyn with more opinions.

          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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            Megyn with more opinions.

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            Horace
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            @jon-nyc I guess you sniffed something about a defense of Tucker in there and immediately found it laughable and ridiculous. But the points surrounding that whiff of Tucker defense were reasonable IMO.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Im just enjoying the scrum.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                That's certainly fair enough.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I appreciated today's VDH show. He spends the first 15 minutes going over Israel's value to the US, beyond "just another foreign country". The idea that it's "just another foreign country" underpins all of Tucker's or Dave Smith's rhetoric against US support of it. If I had ever bought into that notion, I would have agreed with them, but I never did. VDH provides some details of why it's not reasonable to think of Israel as just another foreign country.

                  Link to video

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Mass exodus from Heritage to a more standard conservative organization formed recently by Mike Pence.

                    Link to video

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                        I get the odd feeling that he's missed the whole spirit of Christmas thing, despite his jolly decorations.

                        I was only joking

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                          It's not as if he'll be voting for the other side anyway. He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator. Those of us who aren't white nationalists can feel united in that he hates us all.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            It's not as if he'll be voting for the other side anyway. He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator. Those of us who aren't white nationalists can feel united in that he hates us all.

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                            @Horace

                            He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator.

                            So was Julius Streicher

                            Elbows up!

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                              It's worth making some attempt to understand why his message resonates with certain people, young white males as I gather. I mean, some attempt that gets past "because they're all racist". We have a recent thread about a piece about what it is to be a white male trying to work in the entertainment industry that might touch on some of it.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                                I wouldn’t waste much effort attempting to understand populist appeal that I find is morally repugnant.

                                Elbows up!

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                                  I agree a white racial backlash was inevitable to one degree or another once the dominant cultural institutions normalized the expression of racial animus against whites sometime during Obama’s second term. But it’s still worth doing what we can to minimize their impact on the culture.

                                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                    As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

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                                    @jon-nyc said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                                    As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

                                    @mik whats your take on the “Ohio politics” aspect of this?

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                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time. Really though, I'll vote for whoever is more serious about tackling our crippling debt interest payments that'll self-pwn our country by the mid-30s, I think.

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                                          If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time. Really though, I'll vote for whoever is more serious about tackling our crippling debt interest payments that'll self-pwn our country by the mid-30s, I think.

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                                          @89th said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                                          If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time.

                                          Not sure what it'll mean to you that he carries Trump's water, but his communication style will certainly be different, and I trust that his ethical boundaries will be different as well.

                                          If the country is doing well in 2028, the refreshing change to an adult style leader who will carry on with mostly the same policies will be a tough combination to beat.

                                          Or if the left is correct in the prediction that Trump will be an objectively measurable disaster, then Vance won't win anyway.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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