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Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era

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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    I get the odd feeling that he's missed the whole spirit of Christmas thing, despite his jolly decorations.

    I was only joking

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      It's not as if he'll be voting for the other side anyway. He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator. Those of us who aren't white nationalists can feel united in that he hates us all.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        It's not as if he'll be voting for the other side anyway. He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator. Those of us who aren't white nationalists can feel united in that he hates us all.

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        @Horace

        He's not really a political pundit, just a cultural commentator.

        So was Julius Streicher

        Elbows up!

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          It's worth making some attempt to understand why his message resonates with certain people, young white males as I gather. I mean, some attempt that gets past "because they're all racist". We have a recent thread about a piece about what it is to be a white male trying to work in the entertainment industry that might touch on some of it.

          Education is extremely important.

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            I wouldn’t waste much effort attempting to understand populist appeal that I find is morally repugnant.

            Elbows up!

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              I agree a white racial backlash was inevitable to one degree or another once the dominant cultural institutions normalized the expression of racial animus against whites sometime during Obama’s second term. But it’s still worth doing what we can to minimize their impact on the culture.

              The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

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                @jon-nyc said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                As hard as it is, listen to him to the end where he says this is a message for Vance in 28.

                @mik whats your take on the “Ohio politics” aspect of this?

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                  The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time. Really though, I'll vote for whoever is more serious about tackling our crippling debt interest payments that'll self-pwn our country by the mid-30s, I think.

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                    • 89th8 89th

                      If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time. Really though, I'll vote for whoever is more serious about tackling our crippling debt interest payments that'll self-pwn our country by the mid-30s, I think.

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                      @89th said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                      If Vance carries the Trump water in 2028 I might vote for a democrat (Newsom) for President for the first time.

                      Not sure what it'll mean to you that he carries Trump's water, but his communication style will certainly be different, and I trust that his ethical boundaries will be different as well.

                      If the country is doing well in 2028, the refreshing change to an adult style leader who will carry on with mostly the same policies will be a tough combination to beat.

                      Or if the left is correct in the prediction that Trump will be an objectively measurable disaster, then Vance won't win anyway.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        That is a good post, fair points. I guess I meant if Trump is somehow the puppet master then Vance would be a no-go for me. Otherwise your analysis makes sense.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          That is a good post, fair points. I guess I meant if Trump is somehow the puppet master then Vance would be a no-go for me. Otherwise your analysis makes sense.

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                          @89th said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                          if Trump is somehow the puppet master

                          I'm guessing/hoping Vance will try and divest himself of Trump's malignancy once he becomes a lame duck in a year or so. How to do that without upsetting his base might be an interesting challenge.

                          I was only joking

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                            Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

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                            • AxtremusA Axtremus

                              Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

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                              @Axtremus said in Interesting re MAGA for the post Trump era:

                              Just like one should not have expected "Trump would be different," I also do not think it wise to expect "Vance will be different."

                              I'm just hoping for the best whoever gets elected. I find it hard to believe that things will get worse than they are currently, but I've been wrong before on that count.

                              I was only joking

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