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  • HoraceH Horace

    @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

    Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

    I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

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    @Horace said in The impact of AI on jobs:

    My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. ...

    Unless that "something human" can increase profit, yeah ... discount that hope.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

      I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

      I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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      @Axtremus said in The impact of AI on jobs:

      @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

      I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

      I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

      Are you telling your own kids that?

      My son could survive off his inheritances I suppose. Especially given what AGI will do to the stock market.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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        Horace
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        I bet Ax does not choose that question to break his decades long seal against talking about personal stuff.

        Education is extremely important.

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          I think my daughter will be fine. AI can develop project plans, but it can't be a butt kicker, which every successful project manager is.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            89th
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            Sorry to break it to you Mik:

            https://www.vice.com/en/article/ever-wish-there-was-a-machine-for-kicking-people-in-the-ass-well/

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              If all the butts belong to robots, what better kicker than a machine?

              I was only joking

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                Best comment: Akshually its tensor maths of which vectors are just a special case

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  I wrote a description of something I was doing yesterday, to some coworkers. I pasted a paragraph of it into chatgpt, to see what sense it could make of it.

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                  It understood it perfectly, gave perfectly reasonable advice. This is not advanced stuff, but the level of this conversation, based on my experience, will lose most people allegedly "skilled in the art", but now anybody can get accurate and clear headed explanations of technical stuff, in presumably most realms of human knowledge.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    #35

                    That's how I use it and it excels 90% of the time. It distills the subject down to what you really need to know.

                    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                      See, plumbing school FTW!

                      https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-cant-install-an-hvac-system-why-gen-z-is-flocking-to-jobs-in-the-trades-171735856.html

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                        Back in 1980 when I read Sociology, we studied some Keynes, Schumacher. Reduced working hours, and 3 day working weeks appeared to be in my future.
                        Oh yeah, and flying cars for all were predicted.

                        It'll happen, eventually.

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