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The impact of AI on jobs

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

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    Axtremus
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    @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

    I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

    I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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    • HoraceH Horace

      @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

      Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

      I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

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      Axtremus
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      @Horace said in The impact of AI on jobs:

      My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. ...

      Unless that "something human" can increase profit, yeah ... discount that hope.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

        I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

        I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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        jon-nyc
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        @Axtremus said in The impact of AI on jobs:

        @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

        I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

        I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

        Are you telling your own kids that?

        My son could survive off his inheritances I suppose. Especially given what AGI will do to the stock market.

        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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          Horace
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          #29

          I bet Ax does not choose that question to break his decades long seal against talking about personal stuff.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            I think my daughter will be fine. AI can develop project plans, but it can't be a butt kicker, which every successful project manager is.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              89th
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              Sorry to break it to you Mik:

              https://www.vice.com/en/article/ever-wish-there-was-a-machine-for-kicking-people-in-the-ass-well/

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              • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                If all the butts belong to robots, what better kicker than a machine?

                I was only joking

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #33

                  Best comment: Akshually its tensor maths of which vectors are just a special case

                  “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                  • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                  • HoraceH Online
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                    Horace
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                    I wrote a description of something I was doing yesterday, to some coworkers. I pasted a paragraph of it into chatgpt, to see what sense it could make of it.

                    image.png

                    It understood it perfectly, gave perfectly reasonable advice. This is not advanced stuff, but the level of this conversation, based on my experience, will lose most people allegedly "skilled in the art", but now anybody can get accurate and clear headed explanations of technical stuff, in presumably most realms of human knowledge.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • MikM Away
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                      Mik
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                      #35

                      That's how I use it and it excels 90% of the time. It distills the subject down to what you really need to know.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • AxtremusA Away
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                        See, plumbing school FTW!

                        https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-cant-install-an-hvac-system-why-gen-z-is-flocking-to-jobs-in-the-trades-171735856.html

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                          Back in 1980 when I read Sociology, we studied some Keynes, Schumacher. Reduced working hours, and 3 day working weeks appeared to be in my future.
                          Oh yeah, and flying cars for all were predicted.

                          It'll happen, eventually.

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                            https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinecastrillon/2025/08/07/microsoft-reveals-the-most-and-least-ai-safe-jobs-where-do-you-rank/

                            Most Vulnerable
                            Interpreters and Translators
                            Historians
                            Passenger Attendants
                            Sales Representatives of Services
                            Writers and Authors
                            Customer Service Representatives
                            CNC Tool Programmers
                            Telephone Operators
                            Ticket Agents and Travel Clerks
                            Broadcast Announcers and Radio DJs

                            Least Vulnerable
                            Phlebotomists
                            Nursing Assistants
                            Hazardous Materials Removal Workers
                            Helpers—Painters, Plasterers, etc.
                            Embalmers
                            Plant and System Operators, All Other
                            Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons
                            Automotive Glass Installers and Repairers
                            Ship Engineers
                            Tire Repairers and Changers

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                            • AxtremusA Away
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                              Plumbing school Escalator and elevator tech training FTW!

                              https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/11/09/high-paying-jobs-no-college-degree/87128956007/

                              "Blue collar is in. 10 high-paying jobs that don't require a degree."

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                                That’s as startling of news as saying it gets darker earlier in November… Stunning! We had no idea! It’s only been brought up 2345 times on this forum.

                                The Brad

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  #41

                                  Yeah but I have a fully funded 529 so I might as well send him to college.

                                  “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                  • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    It doesn’t mean higher education is obsolete. It just means one should have a practical focus to their chosen course of study.

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      It doesn’t mean higher education is obsolete. It just means one should have a practical focus to their chosen course of study.

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                                      @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                                      It doesn’t mean higher education is obsolete. It just means one should have a practical focus to their chosen course of study.

                                      What Mik said. Luke picked anesthesia because there’s still going to need to be a hands on element to it, even if it’s just monitoring the tech, and being the human comgorting figure for the patient..:

                                      The Brad

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Learn to code using AI...

                                        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/google-brain-founder-andrew-ng-says-everyone-should-still-learn-to-code-but-not-the-old-way/ar-AA1QbYnq

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        • MikM Mik

                                          Learn to code using AI...

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/google-brain-founder-andrew-ng-says-everyone-should-still-learn-to-code-but-not-the-old-way/ar-AA1QbYnq

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                                          @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                                          Learn to code using AI...

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/google-brain-founder-andrew-ng-says-everyone-should-still-learn-to-code-but-not-the-old-way/ar-AA1QbYnq

                                          The people giving out this kind advice always seem to assume that everybody can do this stuff, as well as having the technology access and motivation.

                                          I was only joking

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