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The impact of AI on jobs

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  • MikM Away
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    That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

    I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • MikM Mik

      That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

      I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

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      @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

      That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

      I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

      Reminds me of a style of thread that I used to detest on the internet, and which has mostly died out. The "words and phrases you hate" style discussions, where everybody chips in with their arbitrary pet peeves about commonly used language. "At the end of the day", "ultimately", "folks", "amazing", who knows what might make an appearance on people's hit lists.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • MikM Away
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        Gosh, we have such synergy.

        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          That's awesome!

          I was only joking

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            Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

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              @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

              Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

              I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Not worried about myself or older generations in general, because money in the stock market is the best hedge I can think of against job-destroying automation in private industry. But still, people will need money to spend, to generate all those profits. More, and more, and more, wealth redistribution is inevitable. Especially when future generations of AI-only companies never go public. I think the main driver of the need to go public, is cost of employees.

                Education is extremely important.

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                  I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Although if he keeps up his gym schedule he may be able to kick AI’s ass by then.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

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                      @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                      I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                      I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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                        @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                        Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

                        I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

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                        @Horace said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                        My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. ...

                        Unless that "something human" can increase profit, yeah ... discount that hope.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                          I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                          I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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                          @Axtremus said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                          @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                          I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                          I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

                          Are you telling your own kids that?

                          My son could survive off his inheritances I suppose. Especially given what AGI will do to the stock market.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            I bet Ax does not choose that question to break his decades long seal against talking about personal stuff.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Away
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                              I think my daughter will be fine. AI can develop project plans, but it can't be a butt kicker, which every successful project manager is.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Sorry to break it to you Mik:

                                https://www.vice.com/en/article/ever-wish-there-was-a-machine-for-kicking-people-in-the-ass-well/

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                                  If all the butts belong to robots, what better kicker than a machine?

                                  I was only joking

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                                    Best comment: Akshually its tensor maths of which vectors are just a special case

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      I wrote a description of something I was doing yesterday, to some coworkers. I pasted a paragraph of it into chatgpt, to see what sense it could make of it.

                                      image.png

                                      It understood it perfectly, gave perfectly reasonable advice. This is not advanced stuff, but the level of this conversation, based on my experience, will lose most people allegedly "skilled in the art", but now anybody can get accurate and clear headed explanations of technical stuff, in presumably most realms of human knowledge.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        That's how I use it and it excels 90% of the time. It distills the subject down to what you really need to know.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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