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The impact of AI on jobs

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    Horace
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    #23

    Not worried about myself or older generations in general, because money in the stock market is the best hedge I can think of against job-destroying automation in private industry. But still, people will need money to spend, to generate all those profits. More, and more, and more, wealth redistribution is inevitable. Especially when future generations of AI-only companies never go public. I think the main driver of the need to go public, is cost of employees.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      #24

      I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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        #25

        Although if he keeps up his gym schedule he may be able to kick AI’s ass by then.

        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

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          #26

          @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

          I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

          I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

            Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

            I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

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            @Horace said in The impact of AI on jobs:

            My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. ...

            Unless that "something human" can increase profit, yeah ... discount that hope.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

              I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

              I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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              jon-nyc
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              @Axtremus said in The impact of AI on jobs:

              @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

              I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

              I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

              Are you telling your own kids that?

              My son could survive off his inheritances I suppose. Especially given what AGI will do to the stock market.

              “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

              • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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              • HoraceH Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #29

                I bet Ax does not choose that question to break his decades long seal against talking about personal stuff.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • MikM Away
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                  Mik
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                  #30

                  I think my daughter will be fine. AI can develop project plans, but it can't be a butt kicker, which every successful project manager is.

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • 89th8 Offline
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                    #31

                    Sorry to break it to you Mik:

                    https://www.vice.com/en/article/ever-wish-there-was-a-machine-for-kicking-people-in-the-ass-well/

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                      If all the butts belong to robots, what better kicker than a machine?

                      I was only joking

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        #33

                        Best comment: Akshually its tensor maths of which vectors are just a special case

                        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          #34

                          I wrote a description of something I was doing yesterday, to some coworkers. I pasted a paragraph of it into chatgpt, to see what sense it could make of it.

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                          It understood it perfectly, gave perfectly reasonable advice. This is not advanced stuff, but the level of this conversation, based on my experience, will lose most people allegedly "skilled in the art", but now anybody can get accurate and clear headed explanations of technical stuff, in presumably most realms of human knowledge.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Away
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by Mik
                            #35

                            That's how I use it and it excels 90% of the time. It distills the subject down to what you really need to know.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            • AxtremusA Offline
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                              #36

                              See, plumbing school FTW!

                              https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ai-cant-install-an-hvac-system-why-gen-z-is-flocking-to-jobs-in-the-trades-171735856.html

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                                Back in 1980 when I read Sociology, we studied some Keynes, Schumacher. Reduced working hours, and 3 day working weeks appeared to be in my future.
                                Oh yeah, and flying cars for all were predicted.

                                It'll happen, eventually.

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                                  https://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinecastrillon/2025/08/07/microsoft-reveals-the-most-and-least-ai-safe-jobs-where-do-you-rank/

                                  Most Vulnerable
                                  Interpreters and Translators
                                  Historians
                                  Passenger Attendants
                                  Sales Representatives of Services
                                  Writers and Authors
                                  Customer Service Representatives
                                  CNC Tool Programmers
                                  Telephone Operators
                                  Ticket Agents and Travel Clerks
                                  Broadcast Announcers and Radio DJs

                                  Least Vulnerable
                                  Phlebotomists
                                  Nursing Assistants
                                  Hazardous Materials Removal Workers
                                  Helpers—Painters, Plasterers, etc.
                                  Embalmers
                                  Plant and System Operators, All Other
                                  Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeons
                                  Automotive Glass Installers and Repairers
                                  Ship Engineers
                                  Tire Repairers and Changers

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                                  • AxtremusA Offline
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                                    #39

                                    Plumbing school Escalator and elevator tech training FTW!

                                    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/11/09/high-paying-jobs-no-college-degree/87128956007/

                                    "Blue collar is in. 10 high-paying jobs that don't require a degree."

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                                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      That’s as startling of news as saying it gets darker earlier in November… Stunning! We had no idea! It’s only been brought up 2345 times on this forum.

                                      The Brad

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                                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #41

                                        Yeah but I have a fully funded 529 so I might as well send him to college.

                                        “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                        • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
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                                          #42

                                          It doesn’t mean higher education is obsolete. It just means one should have a practical focus to their chosen course of study.

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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