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The impact of AI on jobs

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  • HoraceH Online
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    Horace
    wrote on last edited by
    #16

    Man this stuff is just amazing. I told ChatGPT I was practicing the beginning of hte third section of Chopin nocturne opus 48#1, and that I was practicing the 4 vs 3, and this is how it turned out:

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    I wonder if it trains itself, and maybe the next time someone asks that question, it will be more likely to provide the second grid first.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #17

      That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

      I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • MikM Mik

        That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

        I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

        HoraceH Online
        HoraceH Online
        Horace
        wrote on last edited by
        #18

        @Mik said in The impact of AI on jobs:

        That was the same impression I've had since I started using it - coherent and very, very useful.

        I was going to say amazing, but I detest that lazy-ass word.

        Reminds me of a style of thread that I used to detest on the internet, and which has mostly died out. The "words and phrases you hate" style discussions, where everybody chips in with their arbitrary pet peeves about commonly used language. "At the end of the day", "ultimately", "folks", "amazing", who knows what might make an appearance on people's hit lists.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #19

          Gosh, we have such synergy.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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            Doctor Phibes
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            #20

            That's awesome!

            I was only joking

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            • jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #21

              Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

                HoraceH Online
                HoraceH Online
                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #22

                @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

                I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Online
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by Horace
                  #23

                  Not worried about myself or older generations in general, because money in the stock market is the best hedge I can think of against job-destroying automation in private industry. But still, people will need money to spend, to generate all those profits. More, and more, and more, wealth redistribution is inevitable. Especially when future generations of AI-only companies never go public. I think the main driver of the need to go public, is cost of employees.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #24

                    I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #25

                      Although if he keeps up his gym schedule he may be able to kick AI’s ass by then.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

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                        @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                        I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                        I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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                        • HoraceH Horace

                          @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                          Anthropic CEO: AI could wipe out half of all entry-level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10-20% within the next five years... Governments and companies need to stop sugar-coating what they know is coming

                          I'm sure that guy has better intuitions than I do. My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. It was only ever a faint hope. I've never suffered from any illusions about the magical nature of the human mind.

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                          Axtremus
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                          @Horace said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                          My hope is that with better AI will come more opportunities for humans to operate that AI, bringing something human to the table that AIs still can't replicate. Maybe I should discount that hope. ...

                          Unless that "something human" can increase profit, yeah ... discount that hope.

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                          • AxtremusA Axtremus

                            @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                            I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                            I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

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                            jon-nyc
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                            @Axtremus said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                            @jon-nyc said in The impact of AI on jobs:

                            I am starting to worry about my son who will graduate from college in 6 years.

                            I tell youngsters to consider plumbing school as backup plan. I am thinking it will be much harder for AI to replace plumbers.

                            Are you telling your own kids that?

                            My son could survive off his inheritances I suppose. Especially given what AGI will do to the stock market.

                            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                            • HoraceH Online
                              HoraceH Online
                              Horace
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #29

                              I bet Ax does not choose that question to break his decades long seal against talking about personal stuff.

                              Education is extremely important.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                I think my daughter will be fine. AI can develop project plans, but it can't be a butt kicker, which every successful project manager is.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  #31

                                  Sorry to break it to you Mik:

                                  https://www.vice.com/en/article/ever-wish-there-was-a-machine-for-kicking-people-in-the-ass-well/

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                                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #32

                                    If all the butts belong to robots, what better kicker than a machine?

                                    I was only joking

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #33

                                      Best comment: Akshually its tensor maths of which vectors are just a special case

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • HoraceH Online
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                                        Horace
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #34

                                        I wrote a description of something I was doing yesterday, to some coworkers. I pasted a paragraph of it into chatgpt, to see what sense it could make of it.

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                                        It understood it perfectly, gave perfectly reasonable advice. This is not advanced stuff, but the level of this conversation, based on my experience, will lose most people allegedly "skilled in the art", but now anybody can get accurate and clear headed explanations of technical stuff, in presumably most realms of human knowledge.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          Mik
                                          wrote on last edited by Mik
                                          #35

                                          That's how I use it and it excels 90% of the time. It distills the subject down to what you really need to know.

                                          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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