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  • 8 89th
    3 Jun 2025, 19:33

    I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 15:51 last edited by
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    @89th said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

    I'm too lazy to look it up but I think we had a prediction thread about how long it would take before Elon would split with the President and become an enemy. Not saying we are there now, but it's kind of like Elon has been released from his white house filter mode and is returning to his pre-Trump47 narrative of crushing debt = fatal for our country.

    Maybe it’s happening?

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 16:32 last edited by
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        4 Jun 2025, 13:55

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        89th
        wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 17:05 last edited by
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        @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

        This is what we've been saying. I hope Elon has a few more eyeballs reading his posts than we do here in TNCR. Maybe it'll make a difference. Trump loves his brand. He should create a 20-year country-saving bill that slowly cuts spending and reduces the debt over 20 years. It can be called the "Trump Saves America Bill" that cannot be touched for 20 years until we no longer are in debt. Trump's legacy will be in solid gold.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 18:55 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2025, 18:56
          #66

          It’s on!

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 18:57 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2025, 22:35
            #67

            What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              89th
              wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 19:08 last edited by
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              Talking about bankruptcy around Trump is..........brave, lol.

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 22:32 last edited by
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                  4 Jun 2025, 18:57

                  What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 22:35 last edited by jon-nyc 6 Apr 2025, 22:35
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                  @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                  What’s your over/under on when Trump publicly rebukes Elon?

                  Mine is Friday.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    4 Jun 2025, 22:32

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 22:53 last edited by
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                    @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                    Rand is trying to have his cake and eat it too.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 23:25 last edited by
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                      Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 4 Jun 2025, 23:33 last edited by
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                        I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          4 Jun 2025, 13:45

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                          @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                          That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

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                          Axtremus
                          wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 12:54 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                          @taiwan_girl said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                          @Axtremus Who benefits from having that in the bill? Some group obviously lobby to get it included.

                          That’s probably the most sensible thing in the bill. You want the California legislature to govern AI?

                          Op-Ed by Dario Amodei, the CEO of Anthropic, an AI technology company:

                          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/05/opinion/anthropic-ceo-regulate-transparency.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Mk8.GCbk.gEk4FB4DnAhU

                          ... a 10-year moratorium is far too blunt an instrument. A.I. is advancing too head-spinningly fast. I believe that these systems could change the world, fundamentally, within two years; in 10 years, all bets are off. Without a clear plan for a federal response, a moratorium would give us the worst of both worlds — no ability for states to act, and no national policy as a backstop.

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                            4 Jun 2025, 23:25

                            Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

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                            LuFins Dad
                            wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 13:00 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                            Yeah most of the debt increase comes from the TCJA extension and he’d vote for that standalone.

                            Considering how poorly the CBO projected the 2017 TCJA, why should we trust their numbers this time?

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                              4 Jun 2025, 23:33

                              I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow with a twist - 10% chance Trump comes out on his side.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 16:55 last edited by
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                              @jon-nyc said in The Big Beautiful Bill needs its own thread.:

                              I’m changing my over/under on the Trump rebuke to tomorrow …

                              https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-president-administration-news-06-05-25#cmbjkbhvx00053b6s86gyygp9

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                                taiwan_girl
                                wrote on 5 Jun 2025, 18:20 last edited by
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                                I’ve helped Elon a lot,” Trump said.

                                How so?

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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 17:28 last edited by
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                                  Bessent in Congress today:

                                  “50% of Americans are financially insecure. Do you think any of them are gonna suffer from the cuts in Medicaid, SNAP, and ACA?” - Moore

                                  “I believe they will be better off.” - Bessent

                                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                    wrote on 11 Jun 2025, 18:48 last edited by
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                                    So he thinks the net effect of the bill will be to make them better off.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      wrote on 17 Jun 2025, 10:33 last edited by
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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 20 Jun 2025, 06:08 last edited by
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                                        https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2025/06/19/gop-budget-misleading-regressive/

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                                          Axtremus
                                          wrote on 22 Jun 2025, 22:12 last edited by
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                                          https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/22/senate-tax-bill-jct-score-00417131

                                          Senate GOP slashes megabill's tax costs with new accounting method

                                          The "new accounting method" basically do not account for extensions of the 2017 tax cuts as a "cost."

                                          So instead of $3.8 Trillion, using the "new accounting method," the Senate GOP's version of the bill is now said to cost only $440 Billion.

                                          They would still need to raise the debt ceiling by $5 Trillion (or suspend it altogether), but with this new accounting method they say the bill will cost only $440 Billion.

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