Elon’s report card
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@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
Ok, Horace. People can read the thread and come to their own conclusions.
Maybe a small handful of people will read and come to their own conclusions. More likely, nobody will read. (Especially not your AI dumps.) Meanwhile, you would be unable to put a point I've made into your own words and demonstrate where it's wrong. Skepticism is not a factual claim. I also posited this, which ties everything up into a neat bow, but which is just a guess:
Thinking about it more, I suspect that the real reason this isn't done, is that the returns are trivial, if positive.
So go ask Grok what the actual returns are. How much revenue are we going to lose by losing those auditors due to DOGE, how much would be stand to gain by rehiring them and then hiring some more?
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I read this thread. LOL@taiwan_girl said in Elon’s report card:
I read this thread. LOLI would never have recommended that.
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@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
The Brad
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@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
That never happened. It would be politically untenable.
Education is extremely important.
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I came to my own conclusions.
I didn't read the thread.
I was only joking
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@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
Sure, but the baseline budget deficit figures would have taken that into account whether they were all auditors or only half. So the point about Doge remains the same.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
That never happened. It would be politically untenable.
@Horace said in Elon’s report card:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
That never happened. It would be politically untenable.
Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?
Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.
Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.
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@Horace said in Elon’s report card:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
That never happened. It would be politically untenable.
Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?
Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.
Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
@Horace said in Elon’s report card:
@LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:
@jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:
My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.
And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.
I mean just Doge.
They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.
That never happened. It would be politically untenable.
Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?
Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.
Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.
Ok Michelle Obama.
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I came to my own conclusions.
I didn't read the thread.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Elon’s report card:
I came to my own conclusions.
I didn't read the thread.
Wise.
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I think his time at DOGE is like the story of the Greece boy who flew too close to the sun.
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Meanwhile, we can discard in retrospect all of the cynical tribalism when DOGE first started that it was a bad faith endeavor. I always believed it was a good faith endeavor that was not likely to be productive, and that’s about how it’s turned out.
I suppose there are still plenty of cynics who think Elon cares about nothing related to actual government efficiency and austerity, but I think current evidence is piled against them.
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Michael Munger put it best, referencing Tyler Cowen:
DOGE was terrific, if unintentional, test of @tylercowen's "state capacity libertarianism."
- Ask if government should be doing this.
- If answer=YES, then ensure work is fully staffed, professional and well-compensated.
Across the board cuts=dumb
