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Elon’s report card

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    @Horace said in Elon’s report card:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

    @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

    My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

    And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

    I mean just Doge.

    They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

    That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

    Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?

    Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.

    Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.

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    @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

    @Horace said in Elon’s report card:

    @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

    @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

    My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

    And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

    I mean just Doge.

    They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

    That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

    Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?

    Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.

    Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.

    Ok Michelle Obama.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      I came to my own conclusions.

      I didn't read the thread.

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      #31

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon’s report card:

      I came to my own conclusions.

      I didn't read the thread.

      Wise.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        jon-nyc
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        #32

        And many of his paltry cuts weren’t implemented?

        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          #33

          I think his time at DOGE is like the story of the Greece boy who flew too close to the sun.

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #34

            The economist had a fabulous headline:

            “DOGE bites man.”

            Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              #35

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • AxtremusA Away
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                Has anyone done a retrospective on how many ex-Twitter employees got hired back into X?

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  Surely not as no outsider would have access to the info. And I doubt it was more than a handful.

                  Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Meanwhile, we can discard in retrospect all of the cynical tribalism when DOGE first started that it was a bad faith endeavor. I always believed it was a good faith endeavor that was not likely to be productive, and that’s about how it’s turned out.

                    I suppose there are still plenty of cynics who think Elon cares about nothing related to actual government efficiency and austerity, but I think current evidence is piled against them.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #39

                      Michael Munger put it best, referencing Tyler Cowen:

                      DOGE was terrific, if unintentional, test of @tylercowen's "state capacity libertarianism."

                      link

                      1. Ask if government should be doing this.
                      2. If answer=YES, then ensure work is fully staffed, professional and well-compensated.

                      Across the board cuts=dumb

                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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