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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
    wrote last edited by jon-nyc
    #19

    I agree there exists a possible world where all the evidence is wrong and you’ve intuited the true answer. I just don’t think we live in that world.

    You were warned.

    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      I agree there exists a possible world where all the evidence is wrong and you’ve intuited the true answer. I just don’t think we live in that world.

      HoraceH Online
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      Horace
      wrote last edited by
      #20

      @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

      I agree there exists a possible world where all the evidence is wrong and you’ve intuited the true answer. I just don’t think we live in that world.

      You keep hoping I'm making points other than the ones I'm making. Sorry to not leave the dunking lane open as wide as you'd like.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        wrote last edited by jon-nyc
        #21

        Ok, Horace. People can read the thread and come to their own conclusions.

        You were warned.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Ok, Horace. People can read the thread and come to their own conclusions.

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          Horace
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          #22

          @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

          Ok, Horace. People can read the thread and come to their own conclusions.

          Maybe a small handful of people will read and come to their own conclusions. More likely, nobody will read. (Especially not your AI dumps.) Meanwhile, you would be unable to put a point I've made into your own words and demonstrate where it's wrong. Skepticism is not a factual claim. I also posited this, which ties everything up into a neat bow, but which is just a guess:

          Thinking about it more, I suspect that the real reason this isn't done, is that the returns are trivial, if positive.

          So go ask Grok what the actual returns are. How much revenue are we going to lose by losing those auditors due to DOGE, how much would be stand to gain by rehiring them and then hiring some more?

          Education is extremely important.

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          • taiwan_girlT Online
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            #23

            👋 I read this thread. LOL

            HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              👋 I read this thread. LOL

              HoraceH Online
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              Horace
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              #24

              @taiwan_girl said in Elon’s report card:

              👋 I read this thread. LOL

              I would never have recommended that.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                I mean just Doge.

                LuFins DadL Offline
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                @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                I mean just Doge.

                They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                The Brad

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                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                  @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                  My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                  And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                  I mean just Doge.

                  They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                  HoraceH Online
                  HoraceH Online
                  Horace
                  wrote last edited by
                  #26

                  @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

                  @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                  My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                  And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                  I mean just Doge.

                  They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                  That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                    #27

                    I came to my own conclusions.

                    I didn't read the thread.

                    I was only joking

                    HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                      My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                      And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                      I mean just Doge.

                      They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nycJ Online
                      jon-nyc
                      wrote last edited by
                      #28

                      @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

                      @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                      My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                      And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                      I mean just Doge.

                      They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                      Sure, but the baseline budget deficit figures would have taken that into account whether they were all auditors or only half. So the point about Doge remains the same.

                      You were warned.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

                        @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                        My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                        And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                        I mean just Doge.

                        They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                        That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nycJ Online
                        jon-nyc
                        wrote last edited by jon-nyc
                        #29

                        @Horace said in Elon’s report card:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

                        @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                        My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                        And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                        I mean just Doge.

                        They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                        That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

                        Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?

                        Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.

                        Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.

                        You were warned.

                        HoraceH 1 Reply Last reply
                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          @Horace said in Elon’s report card:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

                          @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                          My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                          And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                          I mean just Doge.

                          They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                          That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

                          Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?

                          Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.

                          Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.

                          HoraceH Online
                          HoraceH Online
                          Horace
                          wrote last edited by
                          #30

                          @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                          @Horace said in Elon’s report card:

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Elon’s report card:

                          @jon-nyc said in Elon’s report card:

                          My guess is this little fact alone will mean Doge’s net effect will have been to increase the deficit.

                          And I don’t mean the entire Trump admin with his big beautiful bill, of course that will be a world historic deficit increase.

                          I mean just Doge.

                          They added 30K new positions between 2023 and the end of Biden’s term. Now, all of those weren’t auditors, but quite a few were.

                          That never happened. It would be politically untenable.

                          Haha Copper how’d you get Horace’s login?

                          Anyway, as Horace well knows, to say ‘hiring as many auditors as you need until you maximize revenues is not politically tenable’ is quite different from saying ‘hiring any more auditors is politically untenable’.

                          Having said that the political fight around the 30k was quite significant.

                          Ok Michelle Obama.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            I came to my own conclusions.

                            I didn't read the thread.

                            HoraceH Online
                            HoraceH Online
                            Horace
                            wrote last edited by
                            #31

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in Elon’s report card:

                            I came to my own conclusions.

                            I didn't read the thread.

                            Wise.

                            Education is extremely important.

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